Crematory at Jardine's is Approved
Planning Commission authorizes funeral home to add cremation equipment
Jardine Funeral Home has won approval to add a crematory to its Pearl Road business.
About a dozen residents attended Thursday night's Planning Commission meeting, but were not permitted to speak on the matter.
However, some residents have told Strongsville Patch they hoped to fight the project because crematories emit mercury -- from fillings in people's teeth -- into the nearby air.
Commission members voted 5-1 in favor of the plans.
Ward 4 Councilman Scott Maloney cast the dissenting vote, saying he could not support the location of the facility -- in the middle of town, near schools and homes.
"I think it's absolutely safe," Maloney said. "There really are not the concerns with emissions some people have raised."
But he said he has heard objections from enough residents that he felt justified in voting against the project.
"It's created a lot of controversy, and I represent the people," he said. "The issue, for me, is where it's located."
The commission two weeks ago tabled the plans so city officials could research the issue of emissions.
On Thursday night, officials said the newest cremation equipment has eliminated the emission issues that posed problems a decade ago.
"There's really no comparing the equipment," Building Commissioner Tony Biondillo said.
Fire Chief Jeff Branic said he spoke with fire departments in 10 cities where similar crematories operate, and found no problems with equipment made in the last decade.
"We have not uncovered any problem with these devices that are of the most current technology," Branic said.
He said the data opponents are citing involve old equipment, and said the Ohio EPA has approved the machines.
Jason Jardine has said there is "absolutely no smoke or odor" from the equipment his business plans to install.
"The machines we're buying are state-of-the-art," he said. "They were designed to run in neighborhoods."
At a public hearing two weeks ago, no one spoke against the project, while eight people spoke in favor of it.
Since then, some residents have said the crematory does not belong next to Strongsville High School or close to Hunting Meadows and businesses.
Resident George Grozan has questioned why Jardine's is not buying a scrubber for its unit that would filter out the mercury emissions.
The commission's approval Thursday night clears the way for Jardine's to build a 1,400-square-foot addition for a crematory at its property at 15822 Pearl Rd.
The city will limit the hours of operation. Cremations can only take place between dawn and dusk.
City Council last year -- at Jardine's request -- established a set of local regulations for crematories in Strongsville.
lyn
6:34 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
I can't believe they are allowing this to happen.
There is a way to show Jardine's the public's disapproval of this body burner being added on right there on Pearl. For those against a crematory, I suggest that any funeral business be taken to another place. They may be the only one in town, but they are not the only one nearby.
I WILL NOT be using their services and will do my best to convince anyone and everyone I know to also go somewhere else. Maybe it will take sending them this message to kick this over to Foltz where it belongs. Put it in an industrial area like most other cities require.
If they are going to be a business that thumbs its nose at its neighbors, then those same neighbors should take their business elsewhere. That is what people on our street have been saying. So, they think this will increase their business? Well, say bye-bye to other business.
lyn
6:48 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
RE: "City Council last year -- at Jardine's request -- established a set of local regulations for crematories in Strongsville."
Must be nice to have an "in" with the city. So, if you are a business with this influence, don't worry - just ask the city to draw up some regulations so you can build what you want, as you want.
C. Thomas
7:47 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
I'm, with you Lyn. Who wants to see the building where your love one will be burned. I don't. They should have thought to get a building on Foltz Parkway away from school and residences. I know that they would not be met with as much negative comments and feelings, You may be the only funeral home in strongsville but there are many very nice one within a 15 mile radius and I for one will use one of them when the time comes!
sville
8:17 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
The last time I was at Jardine's I was very unimpressed by what I saw. Some of the staff were outside the the front office dressed casually and laughing it up. It was very unprofessional and disturbing to those in attendance. I once saw their hearse driver getting gas with a "customer' in the back. Again, he was dressed as if the pick up call interupted his golf game. Now that they will be doing cremations I can only imagine how this lack of professionalism and dignity will affect that operation. I also have decided to take my business elsewhere when the time comes.
MARIE HELLER
8:45 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
I just think the "take my business elsewhere" comment is humurous.
lyn
8:50 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
I guess it does sound funny. But remember - IT IS ONLY & ALL about business and money to Jardine's.
Beverly
9:15 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
I agree with all the above statements-as to a lack of professionalism-that's been overstated.Just check out comments on the All Strongsville High School Memorial board,as well as here in various articles. Very sad day for Strongsville & our future-scares me that they care so little about the environment & the people that they are supposed to serve-but not suprising given all the comments/experiences.I myself had the unfortunate experience of using them for my loved one & being treated by"the young gun" with a very flip attitude & rude unprofessional comments,not to mention horrific paperwork errors that caused much more difficulty during an already stressful time. Perhaps to get a good visual people should also peruse the young wife's Facebook page(Crystal Sesock Jardine) where she posted a picture of her children in the parking lot of the business pushing each other around on a cart that normally carries a casket-very tasteless,but says it all-they think this is a big joke. I say hit them where it hurts,in the pocketbook.Tell everyone you know & share all the information you can.Perhaps they will change their mind & change the location,but I doubt it because that would cost them & they/he are ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
Beverly
11:44 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Bravo! Crystal took down the picture of her kids rolling around the business parking lot on a casket cart-too bad it wasn't in enough time for others to post it on their FB pages & talk about it all over town. Tell you one thing: don't piss off a hairdresser because they will tell everyone about you & what you've done & this family's dirty laundry is getting aired everywhere. They've got to be wondering if their desire for money is really worth all this & being called "the most hated family in Strongsville" by some-so sad what some will do for money. They obviously didn't take into account how this might affect their children/friendships/business relationships.
Tom Brennan
10:14 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
No mention in the above article, but why were no residents allowed to speak in order to voice their opninions at what was a public meeting?
lyn
11:22 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
I assume the city just took the stand that people had the chance to speak 2 weeks ago at the public hearing and now they did not want to hear anything else since they already decided. I think they were singing "nah-nah-nah-nah-nuh-nuh"!
But again, when they compare the emission to Wendy's, there IS a big difference in the TYPE of emissions.
Debbie Palmer
3:53 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Tom, there is no public comment at any Planning Commission meeting, unless there's a public hearing. The hearing for Jardine's was two weeks ago.
Beverly
11:11 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
It wouldn't make a difference Tom- it's now obvious that their minds were made up a long time ago,as evidenced by the way the city drew up regulations specifically to favor that business way before this was presented. Best thing to do is get the word out about this & how they are as a business.
kristin coleman
1:55 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
my husband was there and was informed before the meeting that they would not be allowed to speak with no explanation as to why.
Beverly
2:23 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Yep-that's Strongsville politics-bend over & take it! We really don't have a voice-unless our names like Catan,Kalinich,Jardine,Puzzitello-money talks & gets its way.Notice how the Jardine's & their grandchildren happened to be featured all over the article about the carnival-coincidence w/this coming up?I don't think so. I wouldn't want to be one of their children & have to hear about what their family is doing to this city-maybe that's why they are sending their son to private school or perhaps it's just that our schools aren't good enough anymore. We're only good for them as long as we keeping giving them our $-SO STOP & DON"T PATRONIZE their businesses. MONEY is the only thing that talks to them & there are certainly plenty of more reputable businesses in the area.
Mary
2:58 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
So now again I ask this question--if they put the new school behind Jardine's and their new crematory, will that be a healthy situation for the children??
Beverly
4:46 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
What happened to Kate(oopsy daisy,I mean Crystal's )comment?Why was it deleted? Love it that she/her friends keep making up names/accounts to comment only on this subject-but come on-"Sarah Smith","Kate Johnson"-you are too obvious dear. There is no possible way to defend the businesses' ethics & what they have done to others & will now again with this possible menace to public health.To take the high road would be to admit/acknowledge mistakes ,make amends & move on. No need to get so defensive dear,it is what it is & you are who you are.
J
5:26 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
So why has Busch had a crematory in place and in operation for 20 years + in Parma without issues and or surrounding heatlh problems? Sounds to me this is a personal issues rather than a well thought out health concern. It makes perfect sense to me. This business will be far more regulated than all other business's in the community. I congratulate the city for making a GOOD decision based on fact and EPA approved standards.
lyn
4:27 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Okay, "J",
you want to compare to Busch?
I viewed their location by "bird's eye" map and see that their location is mainly surrounded by woods and is not in the middle of a bustling area. And, as their website says, it is in a wooded setting. So, maybe you should reconsider and take that body burner over to Foltz.
NO COMPARISON. NICE TRY!!
caloge
3:21 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
IIn 2011, a third party independent engineering analysis performed by Dr. Stanley Penkala, Ph.D., Qualified Environmental Professional (Q.E.P.) submitted to the Peters Township Planning commission in reference to an environmental engineering analysis of a Matthews Power Pak II crematory installation resulted in the identification of numerous errors in the analysis performed and serious questions as to the accuracy of the actual test data provided by the Matthews Int. (http://www.egovlink.com/public_documents300/peterstownship/published_documents/May%202nd%20Public%20Hearing%20Documents/Audia%20Group%20Supplemental%20Exhibits.pdf). After the model was revised Dr. Penkala concluded that the results were not acceptable and further analysis was still required.
caloge
3:21 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
In his assessment Dr. Penkala states "To produce meaningful estimates of ambient concentrations, the modeling must start with credible estimates of emission rates of the process under evaluation. In both CEC-1 and CEC-2, the stack emission rates come from five reports provided to CEC by Matthews International, and an EPA WebFIRE HAP Emission Factor report performed in 1992. The tests vary widely in operating conditions: secondary chamber temperatures are only known for one case, charge weights are missing in two of the cases, fuel heat input rates are unknown in one test and are assumed to be 3 million BTU/hr for the most recent four cases, and only one criteria pollutant [particulate matter] was reported for all five cases. Most of the HAPS [Hazardous Air Pollutants] are only available from a single test plus the WebFIRE report....”
caloge
3:22 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
In his assessment Dr. Penkala states “As for the HAPS emission estimates, we don’t know whether the cases included prostheses or other combustibles that could increase the emissions of some species. The same criticism applies to the EPA WebFIRE data, which dates back to 1992 and utilized propane rather than natural gas as the combustion fuel. An indication that these parameters are affected by individual test variations can be found in the high variability of species emission rates when data are available for multiple tests. For example, Cadmium emission estimates were 5.55E-06, 2.100E-05, and 2.425E-04 lbs/hr in the 3 sources reporting emissions of that HAP. The modeling evaluation used the average of the two highest test results, as if the average of two values which differ by an order of magnitude is significant and representative of the cremation process.”
caloge
3:22 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Dr. Penkala states “This is very sketchy information on which to evaluate any source. Whether a particular modeled concentration turns out to be lower or higher than the comparable screening concentration, we won’t know if that is because there is a real problem or because the assumed emission rate is erroneous.” (http://www.egovlink.com/public_documents300/peterstownship/published_documents/May%202nd%20Public%20Hearing%20Documents/Audia%20Group%20Supplemental%20Exhibits.pdf).
Subsequently, after hearing all of the facts, the Peters Township Council unanimously Voted 7-0 against the Crematory! (http://peters.patch.com/articles/peters-township-council-unanimously-votes-no-on-crematory)
caloge
3:24 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
This is based on a study performed last year on the same model unit being proposed. It is very relevant to the discussion, since the proposed location is so close to schools with high potential exposure to our children. At a minimum, a third party Environmental engineering analysis should have been performed on this specific installation. Otherwise, no one can say that this is of safe risk to expose our children and community to.
K
5:32 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
I agree with J!
lyn
5:51 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
K and J-
I'm sure you will be very happy burning your loved ones bodies there. And you can enjoy those happy memories of those bodies burning down to ashes everytime you drive by Jardine's. For me, I'd rather have it out of sight. As I once said - I eat meat, but I don't want to have a slaughter house in the middle of town to drive by to remind me of how that meat got to my plate.
But, go for it - to each their own. I could not live daily with that image burned on my brain of someone I love in some oven, burning away.
I'm taking any family funeral business out of town, and I don't want my body any where near Jardine's.
lyn
6:02 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
As far as my family, extended family, and neighbors are concerned - Jardines is now considered a business that is not welcome in the neighborhood. You have lost a lot of business. Translation - you lost money!
I'm sure some will want you to fry their loved one's up, but just know that your family and its business has lost lots of respect. Too bad a respected family business has conducted itself in this manner. And, I particularly like how last year when you wanted the city to write regulations for you, you said there were no immediate plans for a crematory. Yeah, right.
J
6:10 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Again, sounds like a personal issue, not anything based on health concerns, which I beiieve was the original grounds for most concerns posted.
lyn
7:35 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
It has become personal, once that family exhibited total disregard for its neighbors. I wonder how it feels to be the most hated family and hated business in Strongsville. We saw it on a larger scale with LeBron. But, he got to leave town. These people have to live here, among the very people they have totally alienated. Yet, they think people will still bring them their business.
Beverly
6:19 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
You are obviously very ignorant if you don't understand that what affects our neighborhood's & resident's health is very personal to each of us here. Our health is a very personal concern "J"ason :) Other information shared just speaks to the trustworthyness of the business. Only time will tell if they keep to their word & only incinerate their own clientele.My guess,the lure of more money will be too great
lyn
7:22 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Yes. And yes.
And, luckily, I have not had any past dealings with them.
Jeff
8:36 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
J "ason" if you say the same lie over and over it still doesn't become true -- the EPA doesn't regulate human crematories or their emissions... They ONLY regulate pet/animal crematories. Therefore, by saying that the Crematory meets all "EPA approved standards" means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The only way the crematory won't emit mercury vapors is to either install scrubbers on the stacks or pull all the cadaver's teeth. Somehow I don't see the younger Jardine becoming a corpse dentist.
Beverly
8:45 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
How could the city be so ignorant as to not research this further? I didn't realize the EPA only regulated pet cemetaries.I don't know of too many pets w/mercury fillings! This is a joke,but it's not funny-what a bunch of buffoons we have running this city-remember who you SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR next election. As for a corpse dentist-I could see it-he'd just charge families more to have their loved ones teeth pulled out-he'll do anything for money.
What I can't believe is that his father sits back & watches/hears what his son has done-make a mockery of a once respected family business-and does NOTHING.Millar & George were respectable men & built their business with those characterisitcs.Ask anyone in town about the new generation & you will hear very unfavorable comments in all aspects of dealing with him(not just w/his "business"). Word does get around & the more people I speak with,the more horror stories I hear about his conduct.Such a shame he never learned the characteristics his forefathers founded the business on-they are the key to what would have ensured the business' future.
Tom Brennan
9:14 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
This is getting pretty nasty. But I really don't understand how anyone involved in the Jardine family business could fail to see that this whole idea could seem to be a bit disturbing to a large percentage of the populace. In retrospect, they probably should have just gotten the legislation regarding regulations passed and picked up a parcel in the industrial park. Legal or not, this whole idea seems a bit tasteless, and will likely rub a lot of people the wrong way.
lyn
4:29 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
"J"-
Just in case you missed my post above,
Okay, "J",
you want to compare to Busch?
I viewed their location by "bird's eye" map and see that their location is mainly surrounded by woods and is not in the middle of a bustling area. And, as their website says, it is in a wooded setting. So, maybe you should reconsider and take that body burner over to Foltz.
NO COMPARISON. NICE TRY!!
lyn
4:55 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
So, let me summarize what I have read as reasons to: OK this fryer, and the "falsehoods" that have been presented.
(1) Meets EPA approved standards. BUT, EPA does NOT cover cover HUMAN crematories or their emissions.
(2) Compares to Busch in Parma. But, location is no comparison.
(3) Mercury emissions are not a problem. But will not put on scrubbers to prevent emission of mercury vapors.
(4) Said a year ago no immediate plans for this. But, now they are going ahead with it now.
What have I missed?
Hope I have been accurate - this is based on what I have read on the Patch and in comments, so I am more than willing to be corrected.
lyn
5:05 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Were these the same issues and concerns that the city considered, but failed to follow through on? Did they check out any of the "buts" mentioned above?
Beverly
10:12 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
You can spell it out any way you want lyn- it is my obvious opinion that the city/Jardines are not interested in the facts & don't care about the residents.If they did they would not have so blatantly ignored all the concerns.This comes down to money plain & simple.Money talks.I wouldn't be suprised if the Cuyahoga corruption investigations uncover further links in Strongsville. Best thing to do -share this with everyone & anyone you know and urge them to boycott Jardine's.From comments I've seen they are apparantly already not well liked or respected due to what has been stated as their lack of professionalisn & business ethics.
Tom Brennan
11:52 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
I like to county corruption comment. It's incredibly hard to believe that Pay Coyne was operating entirely on his own. There have to be others involved, one man cannot come through on his own in making the kind of promises his did. Wonder how things are going down in Morgantown?
Beverly
1:38 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
I know some involved in this investigation & it is far from over. They would have let Pat sing on all the cronies,but they haven't because there is much more work to be done & this is so far reaching & extensive it's unbelieveable. Until now the focus had been broad-on the "big fish"county employees & those connected(contractors) that could give info to the feds. Those who think they got away scott free are still being watched. Just as it took a few years to finally come out & charge the others,it is a long tedious process. Again,I'm aware of suspicions on the part of former & current councilmen,so I won't be suprised to see them exposed for the crooks they are when the time comes. Only then will alot of the decisions handed down in the city make too much sense to our citizens.
Pat Stang
12:46 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
We were treated with great care and compassion by Jardine. The attack of children written above is foolish and mean-spirited. Your point is better received without desperate personal attacks. I see the point in "hiding" the crematorium out of public view. But, truthfully what is the difference between a looking at a cemetery knowing nature takes its course or having followed the desire of cremation? I am not educated on the emissions but trust this was fully studied if only to eliminate damage to health claims.
lyn
1:02 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Yes, everyone dies.
But, not everyone chooses cremation.
And, not everyone is as "trusting" as you that this was fully studied sufficiently.
Jeff
2:19 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Pat,
The Jardines made their bed, let them sleep in it. The manufacture of the oven makes a filtration system. Why do you think they would offer such a device? to capture mercury and heavy metals from being released to the atmospehre, thats why! Crematories are necessary, but the Jardines have the chance to do the right thing here and protect the city of Strongsville from mercury contamination. They can add the scrubbers or move the oven to an industrial setting. The fact that they want to build next to the high school and bus yard which will be transporting 1000's of children (but not theirs, they pulled theirs out of Strongsville) 5 days a week should give you a really good idea of what type of people they are, and what they think of the children and the residents of Strongsville. Once the body burner is up and running, think about the mercury you will be coming in contact with when you open your mail, or when you park in Giant Eagles new location, or maybe you have relatives in the school system, think about them being exposed to mercury with every bus ride, the students, all of the athletes who play football, soccer, baseball etc.. within the proxiamety. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE that this was fully studied with NO CHANCE of contamination?
You are very naive if you think this was studied at all. The Jardine's established the regulations for crematories in Strongsville. This is ONLY about money and politics, when it should be about health and safety.
Pat Stang
4:31 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Ohio EPA
Northeast District Office
Location and Mailing Address:
2110 East Aurora Road
Twinsburg, Ohio 44087
Telephone: (330) 963-1200
Fax: (330) 487-0769
This seems like a more helpful avenue to voice you concerns, questions and opinions. Surely, you're not concerned the Ohio EPA is in cahoots with our local elected officials, leaders within the business community and Jardine family.
lyn
4:58 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
From what I understand the EPA does not regulate body burners. I did a quick google and found the following, but there might be better info out there. It appears each state sets certain emission limits, for only a few things (set emission limits only for emissions of particulate matter and for opacity and not for oxides of nitrogen and sulfur), but I didn't see any mention of mercury in the link. Therefore, are we left to fend for ourselves? Is it an area yet to be determined as to how harmful it will be, and if so, after the fact? And, who wants to be the guinea pig?
It may be something that doesn't violate EPA rules, but is that because EPA does not even regulate them? So, how can you say the EPA allows and permits them?
http://www.nfda.org/additional-tools-cremation/2631-what-impact-will-the-new-epa-proposal-have-on-crematories.html
lyn
5:25 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Pat-
Your interpretation of comments made indicating people are "in cahoots" is because of how and when the regulations were enacted. There were no regs in the city for body fryers, so Jardines wanted regulations and they got them. And the automatic assumption is, because of the family and their ties to the city, they easily got the regs written the way they wanted. Why not have regs specify these burners be put in some remote location like some people said the city of Cleveland has required? It just has the appearance of city business being done in an inappropriate manner, for lack of a better word.
Tom Brennan
6:07 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
I'm left once again thinking that the younger generation has no concerns regarding the sensitivities of the community as a whole. I can't imagine either Millar or George ever believing that this whole project was a good idea. Again, just because it's legal does not make it right, especially considering the emotional nature associated with end of life issues.
At the same time, the fact that the Jardines approached city council looking for guidelines (which they probably wrote) and stating that there were no immediate plans to move forward, then doing exactly what they said they were not going to do, just sounds like business as usual in Strongsville. And the cynic in me thinks that Maloney's "NO" vote was pre-determined. He can walk away looking like he stuck up for his constituents while knowing full well which way the vote was going to go. Sorry, I've been in the city long enough to be VERY cynical.
Beverly
6:36 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Perhaps a petition could be started online& elsewhere in order to inform those who might be unaware how all this came down in the course of a year-seemingly quite deviously. It appears there are many facts that have not been acknowledged by the city-especially when it comes to crematories of human remains,which it seems are not closely monitored as everyone may have been led to believe . Residents could also boycott/picket Jardine's & their other development properties until they reconsider making it safer(by purchasing the needed safety precaution/scrubber to alleviate mercury & other unsafe emissions) or having them move it to an industrial location.Only money talks to them. I agree with you Tom,I find it hard to fathom that either Millar or George would support something of such a concern to residents.They built their business on old fashioned ethics,something that apparantly didn't get passed down in my opinion.
tom m
8:59 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
start a petition which will promise that anytime someone gets cremated at jardines a group will picket on the sidewalk at the funeral service (that should decrease funerals)
fd
9:50 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Those that have had negative experiences at the funeral home could also post negative reviews and comments in numerous places online for the funeral home and is anyone aware of the Clevelandcremation.com connection? This crematory is not just for the residents of Strongsville, they are attempting to attract business across the entire area.
lyn
9:57 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Cleveland Cremation is the Jardine cremation business, correct? And, I believe Crystal, wive of Jason Jardine, is the president of this burner business?
lyn
10:25 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
RE: "they are attempting to attract business across the entire area"
Yes. That was a concern of mine when I first saw the name CLEVELAND Cremation. Why not Strongsville Cremation or Jardine Cremation? By calling it "Cleveland", that is sure to bring in business from all over - which I assume was the reason for naming it this.
Jeff
10:10 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
lyn
You are correct. The entire family is involved in wanting to contaminate the city of Strongsville residents and their children.
Jardines (past and present), put the filtration system on or move to an industrial site, (preferrably an industrial site since you will be burning 1000's of bodies yearly). It is that easy. Show you care about the communities health and safety, especially the childrens, as you claim is your main concern instead of being driven by the all mighty dollar.
Pat Stang
11:20 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Again, being uneducated about crematory pollutants and based only on what I've read here and a bit online, if it is unsafe at the current location it would be unsafe at an industrial setting. Foltz is home to Strongsville soccer and ball diamonds, Progress Parkway has Drake Elementary nearby and I doubt Christ Church congregants or any of the countless adults that work in the industrial parks within Strongsville want to be doused with mercury. If this truly poses a danger, scrubbers or whatever proper filtration system is the only viable solution. A call to the manufacturer regarding proper installation procedures and intended purpose of the "optional" filtration system may be beneficial. What special circumstances exempt Strongsville? I would suggest those surrounding land owners request soil sampling annually.
lyn
11:33 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Being just as "uneducated", I wonder WHO decided the scrubbers/filtration systems are optional rather than required.
But, putting it in a far off corner satisfies the "out of sight, out of mind". Why did we have to have a special area designated for strip clubs? I'm not AT ALL for them and DON'T WANT THEM, but I don't see a bad element on Pearl in Brunswick by their club, so don't say this is the reason. The point I'm trying to make is, why can't we also decide what other kind of business we don't want in the center of a bustling, busy area of town?
sville
12:25 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Wow! After viewing their website, Clevelandcremation.com, it appears they are positioning themselves to create a real high production operation here. Not just the added comfort to their customers described in their application to the planning commission. Some one needs to put the brakes on this before it spins out of control.
S
4:54 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
According to their website, Clevelandcremation.com services 3 COUNTIES, Cuyahoga, Lorain and Medina!
Beverly
6:20 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Have to laugh @ how obvious the Jardine's are: making comments about themselves on this board supporting themselves as such caring people.In my opinion, if they really were they wouldn't have to try to convince others of it."Sarah Smith","Kate Johnson" or "K" ,then there's "J"ason & now "S". If you really care so much, than listen to what the citizens are saying -we don't want an unsafe,unmonitored crematory without safety precautions of a scrubber in the middle of our beautiful town next to the schools & athletic fields. All of the above aliases have registered right before the posts,have no history of posting on other stories and sometimes the aliases even agree with each other one comment after another-it's just laughably obvious.They know they have touched a nerve big time in this community ,& it's going to hurt their business just as big,given what I've seen & heard. So,K,J,Sarah,Kate& S ,why don't you listen to the residents & either buy the scrubber or relocate your venture to another area. "J"ason,it was your idea to convince your father a few years back to buy the current funeral home property & develop it w/another business out front. Bad move,as no one wants to be directly in front of a funeral home. So,wifey starts her crematory business which has health/environmental concerns. Despite all your efforts to slip it by citizens, doing an end run, through alleged political favoritism,people found out how detrimental it might be anyway.
S
6:06 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Beverly and Jeff, just wanted to let you know I am not a Jardine. I DO NOT want the crematory here! You misunderstood my comment. When I posted that Clevelandcremation.com services 3 counties I posted to vent my frustration and fear that they will bring "customers" from all 3 counties to the site on Pearl Rd to burn in our neighborhood. I was agreeing with the comment that Sville made that they will not limit the burning to those that have services at Jardines "as an added comfort". Although I agree w/your frustration and disgust I would caution you to be careful before jumping to any conclusions and lumping others in with that family. As for registering right before the posts, I am new to this site.
Tom Brennan
7:04 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Wow, such an emotional subject to begin with, and it's turned into a circus. I'm sure "J" doesn't want to hear what I have to say, but if I were his shoes I would just back off on this proposal and let things quiet down before reconsidering the whole idea. No harm in "re-evaluating" and possibly coming up with an alternative that would be more community friendly on multiple fronts. Just sayin'......
tom m
8:46 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
again like I had posted before ....a few picketers at funerals of those cremated should do the trick .... i would think that will knock future cremated funerals down
Jean Williams
9:06 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
tom as horrible as that idea is, I would actually be willing to stand out and protest any cremation service with you,there is nothing like protest signs to deter choosing a funeral home
James Murphy
3:02 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
get that together and I will go along with picketing cremations with you (let it be known that those choosing cremations at jardines will be look on as people endangering our kids) lets see what a few signs saying ( joe fabitz ) poisioned my children
Jeff
9:45 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Hey S, I mean J or K, whichever one this is. If you expect the residents to believe that, you are very foolish. You have done nothing but lied to the city about your plans, starting back when you were able to set the regulations for a corpse burner last year, and quoting that there were no immediate plans for construction, you are lying about the safety of the children and residents of Strongsville, you are lying about the operation of the body burner and it's emissions of mercury and heavy metals. You will have bodies coming from all corners of Ohio just to make a buck, while putting the children and residents of Strongsville in harms way.
All of the corrupt city officials who rammed this through must be so trilled that they put their necks out for you and your family.
sville
9:57 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
They applied to the city to run this crematory under the guise of Jardine Funeral Home ,,actually they are operating under Cleveland Cremation LLC, what happens in 15 years when this area is contaminated and they just close the LLC and the Jardine family has no liability? Shouldn't the city hold them to some higher standard?
sville
11:23 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Let's do a little digging..... If you read the agenda and minutes of the June 20th 2011 council meeting the ordinance ammending the planning and zoning code allowing the crematory is spelled out.. written by none other than good ole boy Ray Haseley, it says in section 3 page 4 ,, "crematories only as an integral component of a licensed funeral home",,, Is this crematory truly a "integral component" of Jardine Funeral Home? Or by way of their structuring it as a seperate LLC does it not meet the definition and should it have been disallowed in the first place?
lyn
9:24 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
If I was George Jardine, if he is still the owner, I would immediately sit down with my attorneys and add something to my legal documents to ensure that son Jason does not trash and take down the family name any further. And, I would put it in writing that no cremations shall ever take place at Jardines Funeral Home, and any such business they participate in shall be performed off site.
If I were the father, I would be concerned about preserving the good name of a business that I poured years into, all my heart and soul. Can you imagine having your entire life's work taken down so quickly, and it being a business that goes back another generation? I would also have a good talking to son Jason on how to better conduct himself in a more respectful and dignified manner.
Most parents would be proud to hand over the keys of a family business. If I were George, I would have much hesitation. That business grew with the community. But, by thumbing its nose to its neighbors only means that they don't remember (George may) how they got the reputation they once had. A good reputation is earned over time, but can quickly be destroyed by the actions such as those which have been taking place. And,from what I have been reading, its not just the crematory that is an issue with how people are forming an opinion of how Jardines conducts business.
George, Mr. Jardine, maybe you should take the reins and fix this.Once you lose the respect of the community, it is hard to win it back.
AJK
10:00 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
The City of Strongsville is more corrupt than the county. Maybe the FBI should investigate! The Jardines and every other Strongsville business owner who lives in the city are tight with every counsel member Therefore whatever they want, they get. Anyone ever notice who does all the road construction in the city? Fabrizi, thats the Fabrizi's who live in Strongsville. Doesn't that stuff go out to the lowest bidder??
lyn
11:31 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Beverly-
I thought of you, and the difficulties you had, when I read these 2 recent articles in the Plain Dealer about the "Funeral Rule". I don't know if this issue is the one you had a problem with, but it was interesting to read. As one article said, "The Funeral Rule's sole purpose is to protect grieving consumers by making sure they get the price information and choices to control funeral expenses."
http://www.cleveland.com/consumeraffairs/index.ssf/2012/07/ftc_fails_public_by_burying_fu.html
http://www.cleveland.com/consumeraffairs/index.ssf/2012/07/3_cleveland-area_funeral_homes.html
Julie R.
2:57 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
It hurts me to see such harsh words about a wonderful family, and a wonderful funeral home. We had a great experience at the Jardine's. The staff was so kind, warm and sincere. The facility is spacious, wonderfuly decorated, comfortable and inviting. Our service was wonderful and the casket, flowers and everything else was perfect. I would highly reccomend this funeral home if you loose a loved one. I think everyone has a right to an opinion but overall my service with George, Jason, Crystal, and the rest of the staff was phenomenal. I think a lot of people in the world have more time on their hands bashing people for being successful. Maybe people in this town spend too much time judging the paths of others when they should be paying attention to where they are going.
Beverly
3:33 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Julie-if you are a friend or political constituant,I'm sure you did get good treatment.Unfortunately that's more the exception than the rule.Between the comments/experiences shared here & on the memorial board,it's apparant that ,sadly,that is not the norm. I'm not sure what you are you are suggesting as to where we are supposedly going-I assume you are insinuating hell. If that's the case you are as ignorant as the Jardine's & will have to get in line behind them because what they have done,they will have to answer for one day .There is nothing wrong with exposing people for the alleged frauds that they appear to be & someone needs to do it so that others don't fall prey. This many people,who don't KNOW each other,posting on a public site, sharing experiences from different time periods,over several years cannot all be wrong.Explain that dear!On the other hand I haven't seen anyone produce evidence to support that Jardine's didn't behave as people have said. In addition, those who've shared experiences appear to have factual proof -not just support of the few friends they may have left.
James Murphy
3:49 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
I have no problems with funerals >>>>but any cremation that will have a service there will be met with me standing on a public sidewalk with a sign saying that
THE PERSON WHO'S SERVICE YOU ARE ATTENDING WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR POISONING OUR CHILDREN
lyn
10:01 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Julie-
You may have had a wonderful experience and your review reads like an ad. But, as you said, people have a right to an opinion and that opinion just might be based on real experiences that were not as pleasant as yours, in a time that is very difficult. Put yourself in that other persons shoes who was grieving and felt taken advantage of, especially when they find out there are such things as "funeral rules". The very reason they have people check up on these places undercover is to prevent what people like Beverly allegedly went through.
I have never had to use Jardine's for their services, but a few months ago, before any of this was going on about putting in the body burner, I went their for a visitation. I will say, I found it to be less impressive than I thought it would be - smaller, less "homey" feel, not as warm feeling. I saw a few people standing off to the side, and whispered to the person I was with, I wonder if those are the Jardines - I hope not, the way they were presenting themselves (it was them). Just too casual a demeanor. Maybe I'm too old fashion about this, but just recently was at Waite in Brunswick and had a totally different impression. And, I went in remembering it was a garden center at one time, yet was VERY impressed with the gentleman at the door and the overall feel and atmosphere of the place. And, the attendees were comfortable enough that they were both dignified and actually seemed to be celebrating the persons life-smiles!
Beverly
3:37 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Additionally-this is not about bashing people for being successful-it's about the manner in which they achieved this supposed "success" as you call it.I'd rather be successful in the eyes of the Lord ,knowing that my intentions are honorable & not to hurt others,but to keep them informed as to not have them experience the hurtful things so many here have given witness to.
K
5:16 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
James, I don't think picketing a funeral is the answer. You will be punishing those who are burying a loved one. To me, that is not much different from those who oppose the war picketing the funerals of soldiers. Please consider this before acting upon it. And NO, I am NOT a Jardine or a friend of a Jardine. And I oppose this crematory as much as the rest of you. The bottom line at this point is that the vote has been made; approval has been given by the city and the officials we helped elect. We need to be more vigilent as a community. Many said they heard the week of the 2nd meeting (when it was too late for public comment). It was here on the Patch and in the papers before that, and we (myself included) should have been at that first meeting, voicing our opposition. We need to be proactive and attend these meetings as much as possible so we know what is going on in our community, since we obviously can't trust those we elected to speak for us. Jason Jardine publicly stated that these machines will be used solely for Jardine's clients, with approx 500 bodies burned a year. If this expansion is really a front for Cleveland Cremation and will be burning in excess of that and servicing other counties and funeral homes, then he lied to the board prior to their vote. Does anyone know if there are any legal ramifications if this is the case? Let's move forward and see what we can productively do to salvage the situation.
Kim L
5:24 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
And I will be standing right next to james.
jardines never mentioned cleveland cremation when they went to the city, and I agree with james (those using jardines cremation will be poisoning our kids) and their legacy will be remembered for it
CHUCK
8:36 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
You people and your opinions make me laugh, of course i truly believe your entitled to those opinions just as i am mine, slandering is not the right way to accomplish your mission, but im not convinced your on a legit mission, due to the fact i also am a lifetime resident of this great community and realize if this situation wasnt present for you to focus on it would be another, snobs, thats what you people are, yuppies who feel your owed something by your community, again im a lifer here in town and im embarrassed to think we wuld try to blacklist a legit small town buisness as you are doing here, grow up.
PP
9:47 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Amen. Be part of a solution or you are part of the problem. Heard of karma? If you think you have been mistreated by them in someway, just how did you present yourself? It's a mirror, people.I would bet none of you would want to be treated the way you are dishing it out.
Kim L
9:50 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
huh chuck is a life time resident of this city but he is only a 1 hour member of the patch
Kim L
9:51 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
and PP has been a member fo .30 minutes now ( as others stated jardines trying to try their case in the patch ) alias after alias
Beverly
11:37 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Yet a few more Jardine "aliases" & their "friends"--you people are laughable.I can honestly say that I sleep at night & am able to look in the mirror every day knowing I don't intentionally try to deceive,defraud & hurt people as they allegedly have according to many who have commented based on their EXPERIENCES with this business. No one wins here-we are stuck with a city,councilmen & business that we can't trust.
Beverly
9:04 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
You make us laugh too Chuck-as you must not know the definition of "legit" or you wouldn't use it to describe this business,as evidenced by the many peoples' experiences shared here. Also,they are not only opinions,but facts based upon peoples unfortunately true experiences & the current situation where it appears Jardines received huge favor from those in the city,despite being presented with health/safety concerns & the opportunity to purchase equipment to make the process safer. Hope your family or you never has to experience what others did.If you can't understand why people are upset then perhaps you should zip your lip & move on because you have no sense of what is truly going on here.
Jeff
9:13 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Chuck
The Jardine's do not care about the community! if they did, they would put additional filtration components onto the body burner or move to an industrial site to prevent even 1 child from mercury contamination. These people are not nice people. This is all KARMA coming back to bight them. They have ulterior motives for everything they do and for all the people they befriend. They can care less about anything except themselves and money. But as stated in above comments, if they are not the most hated family just yet, they are on the fast track to that title, which they so deserving have earned.
They want to build this mercury producing factory right next to the bus yard (1000"s of kids will be riding these buses 5 days a week), the high school and the proposed new middle school. Do you think that is normal? They lied about the amount of bodies they will be burning to all of the corrupt politicians while allowed to write their own regulations for the body burner. Instead of burning only their clientele as quoted by Jason, they will be burning 1000's of bodies through Cleveland Cremations. The biggest joke is their claim of how much they care about the veterans, what a giant lie that is and a disgrace to the veterans. Go to All Strongsville High School Memorial on Facebook. They are crooked and evil to the bone.
PP
9:23 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
After reading comments here I have a few too. While you are busy finger pointing, three fingers are pointing back at you. Why did none of you show up for the public hearing? Didn't know,have time,or think it mattered? All invalid arguments (three fingers back at you).
Public meetings are posted in the paper if you read something besides sports, comics, front page headlines, and your horoscope. Most governments have websites. Call your councelman,ask whats going on/coming up. It is your responsibilty to stay informed. Didn't have time? Apparently wasn't important enough MAKE time. Didn't think it mattered? You would have made an effort, voiced your opinion. All poor excuses. Have a better idea? Gather your supporters, build your own. Who's stopping you? Don't like/trust elected officials? Get off your duff, run yourself! If you feel "taken advantage of" when in a vulnerable state making funeral arrangements, do the responsible thing and prearrange/preplan. Can't complain if done ahead. Don't want to see a crematorium? Don't look. Drive a different way. You want to picket during a funeral? Very disrespectable. How would you feel as that family? Personal attacks on any family are uncalled for & childish. Would your family survive that kind of public ridicule? Want your kids singled out & disrespected that way? Sounds like bullying to me. I live in a town very similar to yours. Haven't heard of a single poisoning from the crematorium. Seems like time to put up or shut up.
sville
11:35 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
It all boils down to this: They used a recently ousted councilman to re-write the rules in their favor. Once this was done there was nothing the current council could do. They appealed to the planning commision to approve this to provide an additional level of comfort to their local customers but left out the part that they would form a new LLC to market this service to a three county area. The way the public hearing was scheduled left a lot of newly educated citizens completely shut out at the final voting meeting. I'm all in favor of picketing their location ,,,BUT,,the Ohio revised code contains very strict rules when it comes to picketing a funeral home,,these rules are meant to protect the family of the deceased and are not at all related to protesting that funeral homes policies. The rules limit pickets 1 hour before and 1 hour after any service. Be sure that if you are going to picket them that you may be charged with disorderly conduct if you violate these rules. An informational picket would be effective but they can turn it around on a technicality very easily. Be careful.
James Murphy
12:16 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
lucky for me the building sits past the 300 ft mark >>>>>> no picketing within three hundred feet of any residence, cemetery, funeral home, church, synagogue, or other establishment during or within one hour before or one hour after the conducting of an actual funeral or burial service at that place. so the public sidewalk is well safe from the 300 foot rule (unless you count the mercury filled smoke from when they cook a body)
PP
6:46 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Look forward to seeing your name on the ballot in next election. Sounds like you can be fair and impartial.
Beverly
8:51 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Thank you for the vote of confidence,I pride myself on being honest & forthright,which is why I wouldn't fit in. Just read about Stephen LaTourette & why he left politics-you can't get anything done because of special interests & dirty politics that abound. No one ever agrees in politics unless there is something in it for them.
lyn
9:40 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Many of us are concerned Jardine's will be frying more bodies than they told the city that they would be burning.
As per cleveland.com, 6-29-11, Jason Jardine "indicated his business outsources cremation services, as do roughly 99 percent of Cleveland-area funeral homes that lack these capabilities." So, now that they plan on burning up bodies here, we are concerned that they will now be handling business from these other funeral homes that outsource this business. What guarantee do we have that this will not be done? And, in this same article he "states his business has no immediate plans to install a crematorium".
Also, if you look at clevelandcremation.com, Jason and wife Crystal Jardine's business (per manta), they also peddle their services heavily to veterans in northeast Ohio. So, once that burner is heated up, they are hoping to lure veterans here from outside the city and nearby. Cha-ching!!
On their cremation page, they list various types. Many involve providing services away from Jardine's itself. So, only the frying will happen here and then the rest of the ceremony, services...will NOT be taking place here.
lyn
9:41 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Per their site-In summary, as I understand what they have written-
Simple- 2 different fees, no visitation; I think the only difference in the 2 fees is you get to watch them burn the body.
Memorial Service-visitation is 1 hour before funeral service at your church or Jardine's chapel
Catholic Rites-visitation is 1 hour before funeral at your church (when available)
Veterans Options - 2 options with no visitation and another option where visitation is 1 hour before funeral service at your church or Jardine's chapel
So, it looks like this is where they can burn up lots of bodies, for lots of families from all over, and not worry about using their funeral home facilities for anything else. So, in my opinion, this is a very good reason to TAKE THIS OVER TO FOLTZ. I think we all know most bodies that are burned will not have families using this place for visitation. And, I'm afraid other funeral homes will outsource their business to them. I hope they are prevented from doing this - is this in the regulations? If not, the city better put this restriction in NOW.
fd
10:22 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
http://www.metrowny.com/news/938-Crematory_complies_with_residents_requests__.html <- Check this out.
lyn
10:38 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
I can hear them now "our equipment won't do that". But, if it does, it is my understanding that they will be violating the city regs. So, even if they build and burn, they might get shut down if they do anything in violation. And, all that money spent on that body burner will have gone up in smoke!
lyn
2:01 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
OK, so the city drew up regulations for a body burner at Jason Jardines request, and then Jardines was granted whatever variance they needed because the regs still were not quite custom fit, and they eventually, after a couple of weeks taken to evaluate its safety, were given the blessing by the city to go ahead. It seems this was pushed through rather quickly so that people who had issues with this really didn't realize what happened until it was too late. But Jardines made sure they had backers when it was important for the public to be there. I wich our council people would let us know when something this important comes up. Not everyone is up on how city government works and when the public needs to speak.
BUT...
maybe its not too late. What if there were improprieties in how the regs were drawn up? What if there was a conflict of interest in who drew up the regs? What if there are errors in the regs? What if the regs violates some clean air laws? Are these burners to be located a certain distance from school properties?
Are there other questions or errors that someone with legal knowledge can pursue against the city and then negate this whole endeavor?
If this whole creation of regulatuons for Jason can be thrown out the window, then maybe we can force the city to come up with new regulations that puts this kind of operation some place else.
lyn
5:21 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
If it's so safe, and his neighbors think it is such a great idea and have no fear of this, how about Jason and his wife try to get part of their property rezoned and put that body burner next to their home?
Or, maybe build it on his fathers property.
Maybe building it adjoining Jason's house WOULD be good.
Per county records, his lot is 150,848 sq. ft. - not much smaller than the funeral home lot which is 183,727 sq ft. And, since the city has no problem giving him the variances he wants - if any are needed, just give them to him.
Remember, at the council meeting he had his neighbors come and say they had no problem with this body burner being built. So, build it by people who don't object to it, and by the home of the people who want to build it. I would definitely vote to have the property rezoned for this to happen. And, its located away from the busy area where people wouldn't drive by all the time.
caloge
5:51 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
I can’t imagine the proponents of this crematory would disagree with allowing the city to perform a third party independent engineering analysis prior to construction. As I have read numerous times, they live in our community and share our same concerns for our children.
lyn
10:28 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
As I see it, there are 2 issues here.
First, how these regulations came to be created, by whom and were any favors granted? Were any discounts given to anyone in city government by the Jardine family? We all know what happened with one of our councilman and in the city of Cleveland. Maybe the best thing to do is to ask for an inquiry of city business by the division that has been conducting the corruption investigation and prosecution in Cleveland and of former Strongsville Councilman Patrick Coyne. The city appears to be more interested in furthering certain private citizens interests. When Aldi's was built, only a fence was OK behind, but not for Giant Eagle. Also, Aldi's got a parking space variance, but as I recall, Drug Mart had a problem with a location because of parking. Where I'm wrong, please correct me-I'm relying on memory. Then we have Pearl Rd. widening. Phase 1 needed done from the time the other part was widened to the post office. But, there is no need to go further to Boston, unless we have extra money to spend. No traffic, and using Foltz as a reason doesn't fly. And I have yet to hear how much it cost the city out of pocket to complete Phase 1 (a project that needed done), and how much for Phase 2 (a project that does not need done, but would be nice to speed down to get to 2 lanes in Brunswick).
lyn
10:30 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
The Catan family seems to be the only ones to profit by the Pearl expansions since they acquired 60+ acres there that they are now trying to sell. Then, Jardines - more and more studies and cities are finding this to be too risky. Yet, look where they are putting it, without requiring scrubbers.
So, is the city taking care of a few? Is that how city government should run?
Second, the issue with the location itself because of the safety and just because people would rather not see this business in the center of our busy area. It seems that there would have to be some elimination into the air through some type of stacks and this would be visible for people to see what is going on. Just because the EPA doesn't govern, does not mean it is safe. And, we all know that the laws take a while to catch up with technology. As "John" and "J" have "Jason" have said, there is fear of the unknown and there is risk in everything. But why add to it and take a chance? Sometimes it takes years before the effects of poisonings are known. When the trend is going away from putting these in this type of location, why is Jardine's putting it on Pearl?
Beverly
11:28 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
It is shameful Lyn & the only way to have them give it a second look is to report it to an investigative agency. Does anyone know which one would be the appropriate one? Or does anyone here know a lawyer knowledgeable in this area of law? At the very least perhaps a starting point would be Sheryl Harris(consumer reporter) of the Plain Dealer who wrote the article you posted regarding the funeral rule-perhaps she could shed some light on it. Does anyone know/have any contacts with her?
It would certainly be worth checking out.Heck,I wonder if council &the mayor are even aware of just how angry & upset residents are about this,as all that's been reported is that it passed & no details of how residents felt were taken into account.
lyn
9:22 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012
Well, it only took 3 weeks after Jardines got the OK for building its body burner before Strongsville first realized the effects of this bad decision.
As reported in cleveland.com as one of the reasons to not build the new middle school on the land between Jardine's and the high school, "Carbone said the 14-ton crematorium Jardine Funeral Home is installing also played a role."
So, our schools DO NOT want to build there. Just who will want that land? At least that land can probably be bought at bargain basement prices. I'm sure some local family will scoop up that property at a great price from the schools. Then we'll see them try and pass it off for millions to some outside developer - especially since it is in a prime area, if it can get rezoned, if that's needed. What home buyer would want to build on land that a school doesn't want to build on - I would think the realtor would have to divulge that info.
Beverly
9:43 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012
Lyn-this is a very sad situation-our city officials & Jardines have pretty much been "outed" on this one.Even the task force for the schools recognizes this is not a good thing/in the best interests of the students.It's a sad sad day when the realization hits that a few political families and the "officials" of what I now call Strongsville- 'The Crossroads of Corruption"(my opinion) have the power to effect so many people's lives & health.Not everyone can afford to or are physically able to move,but I know those who are considering it. It's interesting that city officials claim they did their "due diligence" as Scott quoted on his comment(another article ) yet they won't & don't have to show residents just what that supposed "due diligence" was. I feel there should be a public hearing where they should be forced to show what that was.I think this calls for an investigation into how all this came about in such a smooth fashion for the Jardines with no consideration for options/scrubbers that could ENSURE the public's safety.It just doesn't make sense logically & I susupect there is a reason for that that none of them will admit & we've obviously hit a nerve with them in divulging the information that has been uncovered here & in public meetings. George Grozan has all the evidence they need that this can not be deemed safe beyond a reasonable doubt without necessary precautions/scrubbers.
Beverly
9:45 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012
This SCREAMS to be investigated-I'm not sure who the proper authorities would be,but if anyone knows please come forward.I guess a good start could be an investigative reporter like Ron Reagan of channel 5. This whole situation just smells bad--and the bodies haven't even begun burning yet!
lyn
9:58 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012
It will be interesting to see what happens with that 17 acres that the school owns.
Actually, that would have been a great location for a retirement campus, or whatever you call those places. Where people can have homes and clusters, then move on to assisted living and then skilled nursing care. The location would be great since banking and stores would be so close for seniors to get to.
But, with Jardine's frying bodies next door, I would not want to spend my last years there, nor would I put my loved ones there.
lyn
10:00 am on Saturday, August 18, 2012
Maybe now the only good use for that property is to put in a cemetery.
And wouldn't Jardine's love that? More reason to use their services - right next to them.