Teachers:
Great day to be on the picket line rain rain all day..........
I hope Tracy doesn't melt away.... Ha Ha

Parents against Teachers Union:::
Great day to drive on Pearl Rd I bet thers lots of big puddles....
SWOSH...... :)

The rain will wash the egg off of their cars but not of their faces

This just in..... the Striking Strongsville teachers have demanded that the BOE send in Substitute Strikers due to the inclement weather........

I noticed Anti Teacher Union signs popping up around Strongsville..... interesting. People aren't going to take this BS sitting down..... One sign read "Strongsville Teachers Have Abandoned Our Children".

These teachers have dug their own grave. There will never be another levy passed in this city again. They are a disgrace to Strongsville and themselves. Don't forget my two favorite websites everyone. www.buckeyeinstitute.org and www.seastrike2013.com

You guys are ridiculous.... Your bad mouthing the teachers for "setting a ha example" for your children, yet your using statements such as, "the eggs will stick to their faces". Really parents? Lets not be hypocritical here. Stop the bullying by the teachers? The same goes for you. Be mature. Hitting them with puddles? Your absolutely no better. Grow up. What are you teaching your children? When some one acts out to retaliate? Great parenting.

John strong, why do you assume everyone who opposes your opinion is a teacher? I am not a teacher. This is where things get ridiculous because you can't respect someone else having an opinion that is different from you. Stop telling people that teachers need to stop the violence and the bullying when your doing the same. Lead with example, isn't that what you tell your children? I'm not saying I agree with the teachers completely, believe me there's parts of the contract in what their asking for that I can not agree with but when it comes to violence and actions your the pot calling the kettle black. Allow others to have an opioni: listen to want others have to say. Or are you telling your children that their way is the right way? Practice what you preach, because right now your leading a horrible example.

Almost lunch time teachers, can I buy you something since I am working, and we all know you would not want to pay for anything yourselves.

No John I do not think they should be fired, should they be reprimanded just like a student would be? Suspended without pay just as a student would be suspended from school; yes those that participated should be. But not all participated.

I also feel that maybe those parents who egged teachers cars should have to pay for the damage caused don't you? Since its a civilized society an all

yesterday I was talking to a teacher about the need for only 5 classes and 2 planning periods at the high school to help students in need but when I asked what would happen if nobody needed help that day which the reply was then the teachers could use that time for grading ----- so that means that if no students need help that would leave some high school teachers with 5 classes 2 paid planning periods which they are free to determine how to use it if no students require help and a paid lunch

so that is now a 5 hour work day with 3 paid rest periods

and they wonder why the taxpayers are angry

Jane egg on the face is an expression

Egg on the car is vandalism

Maybe the teachers told the students to egg the subs car And they were confused

I've got to agree with Jane.

Most of the parents on the Strongsville Patch are acting like 6 year olds. I find it funny people are accusing the teachers of setting a bad example, but these parents are even worse.

I feel incredibly sorry for the kids of these parents. Sucks having immature adults as your caretaker.

"BLAH BLAH YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A TEACHER!111"

Look me up on Facebook, I'm not.

Strongsville Parents:
I wonder what would happen if we held a "candle light vigil" infront of Tracy Linscott's $500,000.00 home in Indepenedence........
I wonder how she would react to that.....
Food for Thought

Why are people wasting good eggs on cars? The eggs could be used to feed people. Not to mention that the chickens worked really hard to produce the eggs.

How do they know the cars belong to a teacher?

I think it was senior citizens that are hard of hearing!!! My guess they thought it was EGGS_CELLENT WITH DISTINCTION

Strong Dad;
Its easy to find the teachers cars look for Mercedes, Bentley's etc......:)
Compliments of Strongsville Tax dollars....
Lol

Kim are you saying the teachers 7.5 hour work day includes a paid 1 hour lunch ?

Eggcellent kim !

I suppose the teachers want a paid summer break too.

concerned parent as I look around the patch your name seems to be one of the few people who are taking the teachers side, 12/50 comments on this page alone, attacking all posters within minutes of their posts

Most of you are truly ignorant!! All you do is spit venom!! In less than ten year the strongsville school district will be in the toilet!! You guys are the reason I'm moving out if strongsville and taking my tax dollars

Ya. That's why in leaving. I don't want my kids growing up around such ignorance!! Just talked to the realtor yesterday!

Yes jean I do. By looking at your post. You are one of the uneducated ones I'm talking about. Stay at home mom!? You have plenty of time!

Taxpayer: SB5 was signed into law. Signatures were brought forward to put it to a vote on the ballot to have it repealed. The law was over turned by voters. Any Strongsville resident complaining about this strike that voted for the repeal of SB5 has no one to blame but themselves. We have met the enemy and the enemy is us.

The teachers are not striking for the kids. They are striking for themselves. A strike is the ultimate bargaining chip to get what they want. More money and benefits. If they win we will need a new tax to pay for it. Look around the country at communities that had to have taxes raised to pay the teachers in their community. We can not be in the red. Some one will pay. That will be you Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer in Strongsville. Look online at what the teachers earn. Look at what they earn in other states. Strongsville is anything but a poor working condition. Ohio is ranked as the 5th best place to be a teacher.

Draw the line. Make it stop now.

Emmanuel, i just read my post and it's not right. I'm sorry. I don't agree with anything you say but I shouldn't have written what I posted. That was wrong of me. I'm just tired of listening to other kids talk about their teachers as if they are some kind of god, cause that's not true at all. The parents have a point too and just because you love your teachers doesn't mean that the parents point of view doesn't mean anything anymore.

I'm so tired of hearing about vivacious abuse by the teachers toward the subs. That's Strongsville. Go to any travel soccer or baseball game. That is how parents teat the ref, the other team, the other team's parents and often their own children. Maybe the mirror cats an ugly reflection, but to act like that's the first time an adult from Strongsville has been rude or vulgar is absurd. It happen every time kids play sports.

John, your car comment is so ignorant it calls into question everything else you post. Thank you for confirming my lie opinion of your knowledge.

Jabace!! You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?? Seeing how there's no education being taught in the schools. And I'm guessing you never attended a quality school. Let me teach you a little something. When I sell my house and take a "loss" I'll get that back on the house I buy because they will take a loss. Pretty simple. I figured I'd keep it that way for the simpleminded!!

Candid - you talk out of both sides of you mouth ... you say below ...

Why does the value of the SEA president's home matter to you so much? Are you going to begrudge her husband his livelihood too?

Yet you also say ....
Good to see the stay-at-home moms in Waterford finally have A JOB to do

Which as a resident of Waterford I take offense to.

Why don't you, and a few others ( on both sides ) take a break from the message board for a while and go do something productive with your time.

Yes strongdad, The moving crew could use help packing my car. Are you willing to help? I'm going to wait a few months but I'd really appreciate it.

Concerned parent I'm sure you will be able to turn your house over easy. Try to look on the sunny side of things. I know things are a bit scrambled now. What's the matter can't you take a yolk.

Kim L. With the price of my home, I'm gonna guess that the new buyer won't care about that just like I didn't. It's the whole 1% thing. You wouldn't understand.

Terry. That was pretty funny. And making a joke out of this is what some people need to do.

Terry---well done

Terry I'm still laughing. You may be one of the few posting who has a brain.

Ok first off going off of these so called "facts" check your news... The media is not right on everything, for one two teachers were NOT arrested, one was and the other given a ticket. And how do they know they were teachers cars? Maybe because they park them on a side street. Don't tell me it was the students. Those making ignorant comments are a horrible example. Just because everyone does not agree with you, you get angry and go for a low blow. Grow up and know your facts. Leave someone's personal life out of this! Such as "the two uses if saline weren't enough, shower, go to the gym" really??? And we wondered why kids were so hurtful to others. It's comments like that from their parents that let them think its okay to treat others like that! Start by setting an example for these students. Educate the. Tell them both sides don't just say well these teachers asking for so mic money and they get paid so much already. Tell them exactly what's going on with both sides. If you raised your children with respect and dignity, the. Show them. Don't put your thoughts in them. Let them have their own. I mean isn't that what you teach them, not to follow a crowd? Stop being so hurtful parents, grow up and act like a parents not children

lets look at the comments of concerned parent on this page alone

Are you worried your eggs won't stick?
The Improv just called.
Good to see the stay-at-home moms in Waterford finally have A JOB to do.
You are one of the uneducated ones I'm talking about. Stay at home mom!
John Strong = Classless Piece of Garbage
these sorry Tea Party wannabes say and do.
You're seriously delusional
The students are definitely confused
Most of you are truly ignorant!
In less than ten year the strongsville school district will be in the toilet!
I figured I'd keep it that way for the simpleminded!
I don't want my kids growing up around such ignorance
You're a special kind of stupid aren't you

now this is the face of one of the few MATURE pro-teacher supporters in the city

remember this candid !! at the end of the day they are only teachers, let these whining teachers try to wear the shoes of the police and firefighters for a week to see what it is to actually work for a living

Strongdad-excuse my spelling and grammar errors as I write this in between my meetings at work, my apologies. No mulligan needed... Don't act like this... I am sure your better than this and more mature.. You wouldn't want to get a call from your child's principal saying he was name calling would you? I'm sure there would be some reprimand at home... As stated before lead through example. I will never stoop to your level of being so immature and disrespectful... My parents actually brought me up to value those things.

These are the funniest comments yet on here. First, I think I am going to have scrambled eggs and bacon for dinner tonight with some biscuits. Second, don't worry all, the board is never going to give in to these demands and they already gave the teachers a very fair final offer. I can't wait to see these teachers break and give in. I think it is funny the amount of money the city is saving and the teachers are losing each day. This has been a long time coming.

No the city is not saving money, extra police and security officers, hiring the company to hire teachers, background checks, paying the subs... No money is being saved

this is a sad strike for all involved. I retired after 38 years in the UAW and have always been loyal to union causes, We even brought food to the striking teachers of parma in 77, but that was then, But not now with these teachers
What these teachers do is without honor this is all greed driven, and most union members are so embarrassed that they are trying to keep distance from them

Jane you should get a job or a second one and personally go give these poor teachers more money. I feel bad for the elementary school teachers to have to work 9 months and only make 80,000.

Jane please give one example how these teachers have not been treated fairly in the offer from the board. Be specific.

As I watch this strike unfold the word "entitlement" continues to pop in my head. The teachers can feel they deserve more, however in the "private world" which I am a part of, if/when my current job does not compensate me or offer the benefits I feel I am worthy of, then guess what....I apply for and find another job. So I have taken the liberty for all of the Strongsville teachers to look for another city that pays them what they feel they deserve. http://www.ohea.org/salary-data-since-2001. The link has data back from 2001. Just find the column that is applicable (based on qualifications), sort from highest to lowest and numerous opportunities will appear. When the strike does settle, use one of the 15 sick days you are entilted for updating your resume and setting up interviews.

JANE, I am still waiting for one specific example of how the teachers have not been treated fairly.

Didn't Hostess workers go on strike? How did that work out for them? I could use a ho-ho right now

First off jabace- I am working and cannot sit on here and wait for someone to comment. And don't say to me to get a job or a second job. I never stated once that I was completely on the teachers side or on the other side. I said there are areas of each contract that I agree with. I never stated teachers were mistreated, I simply stated that the name calling and acts of vandalism are completely uncalled for. Your getting off topic. I simply said that the comments on here need to stop when people are low blowing and talking about people's personal lives and what they look like. It's bullying and people want to theachers to stop bullying, well the parents on here need to as well. I've stated many times to lead with example... Start it here.

Jean- I don't vanish... I'm working and can't sit in front of a computer all day... Sorry that I don't have the luxury of being in front of a computer for personal use.

Jean Williams, exactly, cause everyone knows that these teachers have it darn good.

WHAT TEACHERS MAKE by Taylor Mali

He says the problem with teachers is
What’s a kid going to learn
from someone who decided his best option in life
was to become a teacher?
He reminds the other dinner guests that it’s true
what they say about teachers:
Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.

I decide to bite my tongue instead of his
and resist the temptation to remind the dinner guests
that it’s also true what they say about lawyers.

Because we’re eating, after all, and this is polite company.

I mean, you’re a teacher, Taylor.
Be honest. What do you make?

And I wish he hadn’t done that
(asked me to be honest)
because, you see, I have a policy in my classroom
about honesty and ass-kicking:
if you ask for it, then I have to let you have it.

You want to know what I make?

I make kids work harder than they ever thought they could.
I can make a C+ feel like a Congressional Medal of Honor
and an A- feel like a slap in the face.
How dare you waste my time
with anything less than your very best.

I make kids sit through 40 minutes of study hall
in absolute silence. No, you may not work in groups.
No, you may not ask a question, so put your hand down.
Why won’t I let you go to the bathroom?
Because you’re bored.
And you don’t really have to go to the bathroom, do you?

WHAT TEACHERS MAKE (PART II)

I make parents tremble in fear when I call home:
Hi. This is Mr. Mali. I hope I haven’t called at a bad time,
I just wanted to talk to you about something your son said today.
To the biggest bully in the class, he said,
“Leave the kid alone. I still cry sometimes, don’t you?”
And it was the noblest act of courage I have ever seen.

I make parents see their children for who they are
and what they can be.

You want to know what I make?

I make kids wonder,
I make them question,
I make them criticize.
I make them apologize and mean it.
I make them write, write, write.
And then I make them read.
I make them spell definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful
over and over again until they will never misspell
either one of those words again.
I make them show all their work in math
and hide it on their final drafts in English.
I make them understand if you’ve got this [brains],
then you follow this [heart],
and if someone ever tries to judge you
by what you make, you give them this [the finger].

Here, let me break it down for you, so you know what I say is true:
Teachers make a goddamn difference! Now what about you?

Stay strong Strongsville teachers! There are those who understand what you do and know that you are fighting FOR THE CHILDREN. Forgive the ignorance here in the comments section. Sadly, some just don't understand and are not open minded enough to listen.

Teachers, stand your ground and try not to let the nastiness get you down!

Does anyone see the talking points below

Julie
1:04 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013

I support the teachers, its funny how you can call the. BOE and ask to see the subs qualifications and credentials and they tell you that you have to wait, then I proceed to ask about my elementary sons IEP and was told there is an intervention teacher at the high school, well guess what that don't hekp my son in elementary school, my daughter is in business class and those have all been canceled so the subs just let her leave

April
4:26 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

John how are the teachers being greedy, please do explain. I have 2 children inthe strongsville district one at the high school and one in elementary. My high school son is not able to take all his classes because they did away with his busines class, so the BOE wants him to sit in a study hall for 2 hours until he gets out for work that is nuts, second my elementary son has an IEP and when i called the BOE to ask for the subs credentials and qualifications i got oh you have to wait, then i asked well my son has an IEP i was told there is an intervention teacher at the high school well guess what that doesn't help my son in elementary. IEP's are state funded i bet the BOE is still getting paid for not having a teacher in the school.

lets also remember this all capitalized version of this cut and pasted line seen over and over again

EXCELLENT WITH DISTINCTION

Janace, I would say that the combination of a 1% pay cut, an increase in share of medical, losing seniority rights in RIF and renigging on the promise to restore step and column increases in this contract is unfair. I don't know that I see any one of them as unfair, but after 6 years of give backs that's a lot to expect people to give up all at once.

Candid how can the board promise the teachers that they will pass a levy. When its the voters that do. Why have you and jane put all of your eggs in the sea basket.

I just have to say as a Strongsville parent and an ex-active member of the school system, I no longer support or respect the teachers of the Strongsville school system. How long do you think it will take before another levy will be passed in Strongsville again?? Why should we support a system of teachers who only want to take, take, take in an economy where there isn't anything to give.
Thank you for making our city the laughing stock of the area. You all have put such a bad light on Strongsville which will not be soon forgotten.
It would be a blessing if the Board of Education to take a stand and replace every single teacher who refuses to work. It is time to get some new talent in this system who would be happy to work here without unreasonable expectations on what they "Deserve" no one deserves anything.... you work for what you get and since you don't want to work you don't deserve anything including a job.

Hey Jabace. What happened to your post threatening the teachers? Got a little nervous did ya?

I see the teachers came in from the rain and started posting on here.

Does anybody know how much teachers make in the private schools like St. Ignatius or St. Eds? What about their benefits? Are they comparable to public schools?

I don't have any eggSamples to share what about schools like eggs Benedictine

I heard a teacher was arrested today for "poaching"

Anybody want to discuss the new federal curriculum called " Common Core" that is being implemented next year ..Unfunded federal mandate ,school districts will be liable for all costs." Race to the top"..Go to stopcommoncore.com and get the details ,if you think we are screwed now ,wait until next year..

Plus your child's grades,medical history,families financials,religious,politcsl affiliations will all be sent to the US Dept of Labor tracking them from PreK to workforce ..Its Federal Govt at its finest with a sprinkling of the UN ..oh and Bill Gates..stopcommoncore.com

Terry- what are you referring to with all my eggs in one basket? It doesn't even make anew in this situation to use a figure of speech that doesn't apply... I would love for you to explain that to me:

**it doesn't make any sense.. Sorry autocorrect

EXCELLENT WITH DISTINCTION, you be the judge?
Last Thursday, March 7, I attended the 60th Annual Northeastern Ohio Science and Engineering Fair held this year at John Carroll University. My 8th grade daughter, who attends parochial school, exhibited her science project along with 600+ students. Fair is open to all students in grades 7-12 in any public, private, parochial or home school in the following 7 county area: Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, Medina, Portage, and Summit. The award program listed the schools and all the participants. Many schools had a large presence. Some schools had little or no presence. Avon Lake High represented by 11 students. Hudson High represented by 12 students. St Vincent St Mary High represented by 12 students. Lakewood High represented by 7 students. Mentor High represented by 13 students. Lincoln West High represented by 10 students. Westlake High represented by 11 students. Stongsville High represented by 1 student. Congratulations to this one self motivated Strongsville student.

James,unfortunately Strongsville will still have to comply because the State of Ohio accepted it.Its also tied in with the " No child left behind credit"..Its going to cost Avon Lake $ 850,000 just for new textbooks alone..Math ,English ,Language Arts.Teachers revenues are tied in to test scores..Its Extortion plain and simple..

I have some left overs from dinner. Any teachers want me to drop it off to them tomorrow while picketing. It will save you some money from having to buy lunch. We all know you do not want to buy anything for yourself with your own money.

I heard Florida is great this time of year if any teachers want to take advantage of their early no paid spring break.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF CANDID RESIDENT TRYING TO PASS OFF LIES

CandidResident
9:46 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013

And on a serious note...Why is no one talking about the SCAB (and in this case the term fits) who hit a kid at Surrarrer? I'm sure the kid had it coming, right jabace?

Kim L
9:54 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
really I never heard about this ??? this teacher was arrested and was charged correct.
and you should be able to provide a link to this story

POOF THEY DELETED THE POST

Hi Everyone! Sorry I have been gone for awhile. I see Candid is still at it. I have a question for any parent of a Strongsville High School student. I have a junior attending. Is anyone else completely outraged at the type of messages (via tweeting, texting and emailing) the teachers are doing with our children encouraging bad behavior. My daughter showed my some that she has been receiving and I have to tell you that are so ridiculous and alarming. When did it become OK for our teachers to use our children that way?

Candid,

What is it exactly that you do...I've asked 3 times now. You seem interested in knowing what everyone else does...

1.) You post all day
2.) You make fun of stay at home moms for having too much free time.

PS - classy move "leeking" a fake story about a kid being hit by a sub. Then immediately withdrawing it? That's what you have sunk to in defending your positions.

Talk about showing weakness.

President of the SEA who resides in Independence.

spinnerbait-in regards to your question about how or why students and teachers are frends on twitter, this is why; most teachers have a teaching twitter, this includes homework assignments, what they are doing in class and other notes about the classes the teacher is teaching. I have heard from multiple teachers not just in this school district but others as well that this is a great teaching tool and helps those students who have questions to ask them with out waiting until they see their teacher next. This is not the teachers personal accounts. I have not heard about any conversations or bad mouthing the teachers have been doing via twitter, but just to answer how they are friends, I am assumming this is why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coRNJluF2O4&feature=share&list=PLWqL2Og4ICdvllViIJu00MBc15yaXp2UH

Here is a telling video for all taxpayers and parents on the new federal curriculum called "Common Core" being implememented next year..

Jane, a strongsville teacher tweeted her daughter (who graduated) to pass the word to the AP students derogative remarks and instructions not to listen to the "fake teachers" and it was intercepted by a parent and exposed on a Facebook page. I commented on the teacher's lack of knowledge in the grammar department, my Hotmail was hacked and three kids hacked my Facebook. I have reported them to the Superintendent. So, it's not all teacher business. I know from experience.

A serious cumbya moment is needed!!!!

This will all be over in a few weeks... Once house payments and REAL WORLD health care payments kick in, they will be back... But that scares me too, because their behavior shows what we will be getting back.. A bunch of brats who didnt get what they wanted for Christmas. Thats worse than a motivated sub, if you ask me.