Protesters Gather Outside Strongsville School Board Member's Office and Home
Carl Naso says striking teachers from his daughter's school were at his house
Striking Strongsville teachers tried a new tactic Tuesday, sending protesters to the workplace of School Board member Carl Naso in Beachwood.
Naso said about 40 union supporters, some carrying signs with his employer's phone number, walked and yelled in front of his office from about 3 to 6 p.m.
"They shouted and bullied my coworkers as they went in and out of the building," Naso said. "And they shouted insults about me."
But he was more upset that about 50 members of the Strongsville Education Association, which represents the striking teachers, also gathered in front of his home at the same time.
"They knew I was still at work, and they still sent people to my house," Naso said. "They knew only my wife and daughter were home."
Worse, in his opinion, was that teachers from his 10-year-old daughter's school -- including her current-year teacher -- were among those at his house.
"Is it really about the kids if my daughter has to look outside and see her teacher out there?" Naso said.
SEA members have been gathering in front of Strongsville School Board members' homes in the evenings during the 17-day-old teachers' strike.
Last week, the North Eastern Ohio Education Association sent a letter to teachers in nearby districts, asking for volunteers to stand outside board members homes Mondays through Thursdays.
Board members have said little about the protests, but Naso said his daughter was upset to see her current and past teachers outside.
"I get it if you want to strike," he said. "But there are lines you don't cross."
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Fed Up
11:30 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Yes I too drove past Mr. Naso's house and I think it's deplorable that these teachers are doing this. I saw some good teachers in that group and some real turds like McMillon? from Albion. I hope this gets resolved soon for the good of the respectful teachers and students sake. The other butthead teachers they can fire. I know some of these teachers wouldn't be out there if they weren't bullied by the union. Sad sad sad.....
StrongDad
11:41 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
How low can they go? Nice job for people that want to claim they are "professionals"
W&M
11:45 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I would have to disagree that any good teachers were in that group...or perhaps they're good teachers, but lousy human beings. I absolutely agree that it's deplorable, though.
jw93
11:47 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Sorry to disagree, Fed Up, but any teachers standing in front of someone's home when they know that only his wife and kids are there cannot in any way be labeled a "good teacher". They feel bullied by the union? Too bad. If they're such weaklings that they can so easily throw moral decency out the window, then I don't want them near my kids, anyway.
W&M
3:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
@FunFacts: Thank you. I don't want any of them back...I haven't heard one teacher publicly condemn the strikers' behavior which is the same as condoning it.
DISGUSTED
11:51 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
DISGUSTED!!!
For all those teachers out there, do you have no shame to frighten a 10 year old as you carry signs of "We love our kids"!!! I'm not sure at this point what you are trying to accomplish BUT I personally know that my family have lost all respect in Strongsville teachers as a whole. I hope the BOE keeps you out on the picket lines for the rest of the school year and then we'll see who will be begging for their jobs!
Strongsville Dad Against Striking
12:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Feel free to picket 6303 Acres Drive in Independence to show Tracy Linscott how you feel.
Concerned in Strongsville
1:00 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
There could be something to this!
GS MOM
11:17 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Let's do it! We should stand out there every night after her long day of picketing. Bring your whistles!
Frank
12:06 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
They will NEVER be respected again, I don't care how much butt-kissing they do when they are forced to either go back to work or hit the road
Betty Boops
9:41 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
They have gone too far to picket outside board members places of employment. Sounds like the Union is telling them how to piss people off. And it is really working.
Terri
12:06 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Perhaps we should find out where the striking "Educator" spouses work, and picket in front of their place of employment. And, wouldn't it be poetic justice for the Taxpayers to picket in front of the homes of all SEA officials, as well the homes of striking "Educators".
Oh, wait...most parents and taxpayers are not petulant children disguised as "Educators". And, as such, we will not lower ourselves to their (S.E.A.) level!
ashleigh
4:39 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
There were about 25 people picketing across the street for CCC? Really?
Betty Boops
9:42 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Of course they don't think about how that would feel. A little invasion of space and of their lives should make them think about it.
Frank
12:11 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
We had the unfortunate experience of having Tracy Linscott be our childs teacher in 3rd grade at Allen. She is LAZY and they learned NOTHING that year. She reads her personal book for 2 hours at a time and has them do silent reading. She never taught them their multiplication facts stating, "they do not learn that way anymore", yet the other 3rd grade teachers were teaching their kids their facts. These kids are now juniors and seniors and thanks to private tutoring and parents at home, were able to get back on track. This is where the perfomance issue comes into play. Hold them accountable like the rest of us are in the workplace. Get a merit based performance review like the rest of us. Although Allen did close, I beleive she was moved to the high school because of complaints..This is what the school district does with these "tenured" teachers. then she started teaching a simple class "skills for life" which she is over paid to do..she is one of the worthless ones that needs to be replaced. Her actions are disgusting and I really do not see her re-building her reputation after all of this regardless of what happens.
Beverly
12:19 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Have to agree w/you about the tenure issue.I remember years ago when the principal & asst. principal @ Center- Martin & Vukovich were disciplined for serious offenses against students ,but instead of being fired by Supt.Gray,they were moved to other positions @ the high school and Albion. When these bad teachers/admin. do wrong,they just get shuffled around when they should be fired for their disgaceful behavior.
Robin
4:01 am on Saturday, March 23, 2013
Oh yeah, that sounds great but when it comes to layoffs who do you think the the district will keep, the new teacher making minimum or the expensive 20 year veteran teacher? Somehow my spidey sense tells me those cheap teachers will get glowing evaluations.A wise man once said when it comes to money you don't have any friends.
lyn
12:15 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Look at the picture - these disgusting lowlifes. If one foot stepped on the grass I'd have them arrested for trespassing.
Are they allowed on the driveway?
Yelling at his co-workers? This is getting out of hand.
No teacher that participated in this deserves any respect - it is a reflection of their character.
lyn
12:16 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I hope the Board doesn't change ONE thing in their last and final - not ONE thing.
This group doesn't deserve to be negotiated with.
TCB
6:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
lyn, I hope the Board does start making changes to their last and final offer. I hope they start taking things away! Every day this type of behavior is displayed by our 'so called' Educators, the Board should take particular items off of the contract and apply whatever savings to the Schools and the Kids! Why would you stick to the same contract terms you offered to the supposedly 'Professional Educators' after the actions they've displayed in the past few weeks. To the Striking Educators, Wake Up! Stop acting like lemming, drinking the cool aid, whatever you want to call it. You'll end up following Linscott to your demise. Big Picture... you 'had' it pretty damn good before the strike. If you feel you're being disrespected and don't feel you are being treated fairly, then quit already! Otherwise, get back in the classroom and stop the utterly disrespect behavior. Personnaly, I dont think any of your deserve any respect, and hope that every last one of you are fired. And, in order to get your jobs back that you have to re-interview for the positions you've lost with the Board Members, and be held accountable for your behavior and actions while being on strike. As mentioned by someone earlier... good luck finding a similar teaching position, at similar pay, in a district other than Strongsville. In the near future, I truly hope to hear Tracy Linscott asking me if I'd like to Super-Size my order, and if it will be for here, or to go!
James Murphy
12:16 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
you know this is actually a good idea
everyone owns a printer
pick a 70k-80k teacher closest to your house
print up 50-100 flyers
place them on the front porch (or newspaper slot) of all their neighbors
make sure you list their address (for the dog walkers)
UPDATE this is for Donna Burovac
you might notice white flyers on webster road when you go home today (middleburg hts)
James Murphy
12:18 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
do any of these 80k teachers live in strongsville
its no wonder they dont care about the strongsville taxpayer
jane smith
7:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Hey Dumbass, Donna retired a year ago and that teacher has donated more stuff to the high school (out of her own pocket) then any other teacher I know....just to mention ONE....how about the 6 GRAND she spent to install hot water in all the science rooms. In addition she has donated more time to her students then any other teacher at the schools. She is regarded as a saint by administration and teachers alike. Please see a doctor for your disease: diarrhea of the mouth. WHEN (not if) this district goes down and your house values plummet you will be stuck here. You stupid people think that any teacher is going to want to stay here. They will use this district like a prostitute. Gain experience and GET THE HELL OUT!!! RIP Strongsville City...once great and now just garbage.
jane smith
7:59 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Hey Murphy (aka terd for brains).....Donna retired a year ago and that teacher has donated more stuff to the high school (out of her own pocket) then any other teacher I know....just to mention ONE....how about the 6 GRAND she spent to install hot water in all the science rooms. In addition she has donated more time to her students then any other teacher at the schools. She is regarded as a saint by administration and teachers alike. Please see a doctor for your disease: diarrhea of the mouth. WHEN (not if) this district goes down and your house values plummet you will be stuck here. You stupid people think that any teacher is going to want to stay here. They will use this district like a prostitute. Gain experience and GET THE HELL OUT!!! RIP Strongsville City...once great and now just garbage.
Amazed citizen
12:20 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Poor mr naso...
they aren't doing anything illegal, so go cry me a river.
Kim L
12:26 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I agree with you amazed all is legal !!! and I agree with James and will post the name, address and salary on nice bright orange paper of my local ex-teacher $75.6K
lyn
12:27 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed-
Would you like a group of 40-50 strangers in front of your home, when your kids are there and you are not?
Would you like it if that same group picketed and yelled at your coworkers if you worked for some other company?
If so, how about giving your address, when you are not home and your place of employment.
This action is not acceptable and I can't believe any reasonable person would find it to be.
Amazed citizen
12:32 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Lyn, your comparison is ridiculous, and you know it. They wanted to be on the board, they are interfering with the teachers profesion, there is nothing illegal at what they are doing.
I can't believe they haven't done this before. I would take it even a step further if I was the union.
lyn
12:37 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
And what is the next step - violence?
jw93
12:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
You're a real peach, Amazed. It's also not illegal to block the driveway of the school and back up traffic for 2 minutes at a time - but it doesn't make those who do it any less of an a-hole.
Interfering with the "teachers' profession". What a joke. Yep, just give them what they want and they'll happily go away. Just like the mafia.
lyn
12:39 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Being on the Board is more a service, volunteer position. It does not come with monetary rewards. They want to do it because they care about the schools - why else do people do this type work?
Amazed citizen
12:43 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
next step Lyn. you are already at that now?
JW, I have already stated several times that I don't believe they should give the teachers what they want, just that to solve a problem you have to talk. Not doing that is the problem. Not a few teachers protesting.
jw93
12:53 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
They have talked, Amazed. The board made an offer, and the SEA refused. The board has no reason to up its offer. The taxpayers don't want them to, so they are doing their job and refusing. Good for them. The next words spoken in this debacle should be Linscott going to the board and saying, "We accept your generous offer".
The taxpayers of this city owe these people nothing more than the board has offered (and frankly, not that much). Nothing. Every pathetic, childish, "legal" demonstration just galvanizes the city and the board more. Time to start lowering the offer, BOE.
DISGUSTED
2:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
It's not about being legal or illegal..it's about being decent human beings and knowing your boundries. At this point it's very clear that the SEA has very little support from the Strongsville residents, all of their actions thus far has been ridiculous and infantile, destructive and careless!!! Who is their right mind is going to respect any of these teachers if they ever get back to the classrooms.
lyn
12:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Lets talk about who cares about the kids and educating them. And who cares about the schools.
Is it the teachers demanding these outrageous salaries and benefits when they are already near the top paid in Ohio? And if they receive same, it is at the expense of the kids needs.
Or is it the Board members who make a mere stipend per meeting? Yet, they have to endure the harassment and bullying from this group of thugs! If there is any way to bring suit against them for the teachers actions and invasion of privacy and harassing actions, I'd do it immediately. It is escalating and the perception of threatening actions should not be tolerated.
Amazed citizen
12:26 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Lyn, go cry somewhere else.. The board has chosen time and again not to talk, what did you expect, what did they expect? What bullying, you believe Naso for his word? what a joke.
believe me, the teachers seem stronger than ever, after yesterdays text from Jennifer Pelko.
jw93
12:47 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Jennifer Pelko sent a text? THE Jennifer Pelko? You keep thinking that the teachers are getting stronger, Amazed. That's not the word I would use when I drive by those lifeless zombies every day, with no one even bothering to give them the finger anymore because they've become so irrelevant. Where's your little student helpers? The ones who were texted to "come scream at some scabs"? Please tell me they haven't abandoned the cause of the proletariat. Teenagers can be so fickle.
And don't worry Amazed, thanks to your thuggish heroes, teacher strikes will be illegal in Ohio in no time.
Amazed citizen
12:49 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
you do not know who Jennifer Pelko is JW?
Look it up, then come back, right now you look uninformed like the rest of them. I expected more from you.
jw93
1:09 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I know who she is, Amazed. I'm just wholly unimpressed. My extensive research shows that she may or may not live in Strongsville, meaning she may or may not contribute one person's worth of property taxes and may or may not have one measly little vote when the board runs for re-election.
I hope her apparently Braveheart-level text message had a bunch of Cobra payments attached, or else I fear the effect on the strikers will be short lived.
Steve's neighbor
1:12 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed, I love how Jennifer Pelko is a celebrity in your world. Anybody who is anybody knows Jennifer Pelko, and she sent me a text!! whoo..hoo..that'll keep the strike going another 2 weeks. We don't need money!!
jane smith
7:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
lyn- the board is paid, although not a huge sum of money for each board session they attend. Since when is volunteering = getting paid??? I would think if they wanted to "cry poor" they should lead by example and agree to give back their pay. Pretty sure that argument along with most of your others is not backed up with facts. God, are you stupid! By they way I see your posts here ALL day! Do you even have a job????
jane smith
7:57 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
JW - you fools are to talk about where people live when when you follow Tad around all day mimicing his every word and the man lives in CA for SEVEN months of the year. He must LOVE this city!! so much so he stays away from it most of the year.
lyn
8:17 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
jane smith-
Decided to go back to that name again?
From now on, you are not worth my time - you just want to try and put your spin on things when you guys keep sinking deeper and deeper.
Go ahead and comment - no one will respond. It just gives you credibility if we all know you have none!!
You are so desperate and its showing!!
HA-HA
jw93
8:28 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Jane, you are such an angry little thing. Are you upset about something?
Beverly
12:25 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
What's your address Amazed ? Let's see how you'd like to be harassed @ home & work & to have your family brought into an issue that they have nothing to do with. You are obviously one of those disrespectful union thugs. Here's something "amazing" for you to consider- you have little to NO support from taxpayers in this city & you will NOT PREVAIL,so give it up already.
Amazed citizen
12:29 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
yawn... They chose to be on the board, they chose not to negotiate.
And Bev, if last weeks demonstration was any indication of support, you guys are a pathetic little buch..
And no, I am not union nor teacher, however that idea doesn't fit inside your little head.
Beverly
12:36 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Just because people are working or otherwise & can't attend rallies doesn't mean there isn't support.Just take a look at how many teachers show up to picket on bad weather days-not many, as compared to other days. You are so ignorant,but then,most on here know that & that you don't operate with any common sense.
Amazed citizen
12:39 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
haha Beverly, you keep thinking just that. You are a joke, You, Tad, Myron and all the circle jerk patchers who talk themselves into a frenzy, but are afraid to leave your precious little keyboards
Myron
12:49 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Beverly, you forgot. Board members are no longer citizens apparently after they are elected. So when they "chose to be on the board" and gave their final offer, it just should have been obvious to all of us (and them) that it is instantly open season for protests at their private home and at their private workplaces. I mean, c'mon? How can people not see the logic in that?! Absolutely brilliant argument Amazed citizen! You have used such brain power to put together an airtight case for how by just being on the board of education and not caving into union demands automatically makes it ok for union members to protest/shout at your private residence and workplace. We are all so stupid for not connecting the dots here! Bravo! You've done it again...and hey, you actually posted something without using the term "Waterford" in it. You should save that post!
Amazed citizen
12:51 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Myron, tell us about your maserati!! Or was that tad.. Doesn't matter, make it up anyway.
Beverly
12:32 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Where are you Myron,Tad & Bart? I have a question -wondered if there is the possibility of parents filing a class action suit against the SEA/teachers for abandoning their students & the loss of education(services) that we taxpayers are not receiving as a result? They want to be on the national news & get attention? That would sure accomplish it. If I were board members I'd be posting a "No Tresspassing" sign & videotaping the protesters & if they stepped one inch on my property,have them arrested.
Crosstheline
12:53 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
7 teachers at the high school and 6 at Muraski - those were the only 2 I passed today, where's your spirit teachers!?!?! Losers!!!
Amazed citizen
12:34 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Myron Tad and Bart, are hiding in their make believe richdoms.. Class action suite, you are joking right, you cannot be that uninformed.
lyn
12:35 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
These teachers are destroying this city - or I should say HAS ruined the city.
No parent will want to leave their child with any of these people.
When is the last time any union behaved like this?
And this group wants and feels they deserve respect and calls themselves professionals?
No one is going to want them back. Not even those who once supported them.
And no other district is going to want to hire a teacher that lists Strongsville on their resume.
Amazed citizen
12:37 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Lyn, you have kids in the Sville schooldistrict?
John Strong
12:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Unamazed (teacher) Citzen:
keep hiding behind your patch name we all know your one of thoses idiots.....
Sorry overpaid babysitters living off of taxpayers hard earned money...
Hows Cobra working out???
Ha Ha
Myron
12:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Congrats on your text message Amazed...i don't think a single person on this board could care less what you think the teachers "seem" like. We actually deal in reality. Why do you have to believe Mr. Naso's words when we have photos to prove the idiocy and trashiness of your union? Do you honestly think anyone is giving the SEA the "benefit of the doubt" here? I'd ask you for your address so you can experience what the board members go through, but you can just let me know what brand of refrigerator is written on the outside of your "house." Or, just let us know when you will be stalking people in Waterford Crossing next and we can meet you out there. Come back from fantasyland...so you can resume being a class-envious swine and talk more about "Waterford moms" while you eat your lunchables while watching Judge Alex. Fetch my latte.
Frustrated Papa
12:39 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I just don't get it. Are the teachers reading the news stories and seeing how ridiculous they look? Don't they understand that their union is making them look like fools, and that everything they are doing is backfiring? There is no way these crazy antics will help them and I don't understand why some of them don't have the courage to stand up for themselves and the students. I'm sure most of them do care about the students, so why in the world do they act like sheep and continue to follow the union when they just look like fools! I am completely confused, frustrated, disappointed, and the father of multiple children in the Strongsville school system and I feel completely helpless!
Amazed citizen
12:45 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
tell the board to atleast talk.. Oh wait you can't they aren't paying attention to YOUR needs.
jw93
1:02 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
What should they talk about, Amazed? About how many teachers are going to be fired as soon as this strike is over for their conduct before and during the strike? The taxpayers overwhelmingly don't want the board to give an inch on the final offer unless it's to inch down. So "talking" with the SEA, which I assume you believe would lead to some kind of compromise, would be a betrayal of the taxpayers. No compromise, no negotiation, no deal. The SEA can take it or continue to embarrass themselves on the sidewalk.
Amazed citizen
12:41 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Myron.. you make me yawn. You are predictable and a one trick pony. now go pretend your rich again, it is funny.
Myron
12:53 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Waterford Crossing called: You didn't make the cut. The moms can't accept anyone who wears elastic jeans and tweety bird sweatshirts. Sorry. But they said you are free to talk about them 24/7 in your posts and continue to live vicariously through them as well.
I don't know if it's me making you yawn there. I'd be it's the turkey leg you just polished off on your financed furniture.
Johnny Utah
12:43 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed - there is a difference between legal and ethical. What they did was legal but unethical. If they want to protest/ strike mr. Naso that's their right. But leave the daughter and his wife out if it. Ther is nothing worth doing this to a child. If you don't see how that is wrong, then you must not have children.
Frank
12:46 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed = Linscott
Amazed citizen
12:47 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
haha, paranoid much?
jw93
12:58 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed = Lyn Shady. Yesterday she hit me with that old chestnut "Exaggerate much?" Now it's "Paranoid much?" Lyn / Amazed, that little phrase is more appropriate for a 15 year-old in 2009. I suppose you and Lyn Shady could be different people, but then I would have to assume you both watch all the CW shows together to learn your lingo.
lyn
12:49 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed-
You said-
"I would take it even a step further if I was the union."
So, just what IS that if not violence?
Amazed citizen
12:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Lyn, you have no imagination, or does things always have to be violence in your mind?
Crosstheline
12:55 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Let me ask you this, how's this working for them? Standing outside a different house every evening, how's that going? I thought so...
Frank
12:52 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I think Aamazed is blowing smoke. There is no way that any person would approve of the actions that are taking place. They know it's wrong. It's getting out of hand and needs to stop before someone gets hurt. I can't believe this is Strongsville....what happened to our community
Amazed citizen
12:54 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Frazee and Pepple is what happened. Pepple has lead several schooldistricts into strikes..
Jean Williams
12:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Hiring Pepple is money well spent, he is worth every penny
lyn
1:04 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed-
Back it up.
What other school districts went on strike. Give us that list of several districts and when.
lyn
1:11 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
As far as I'm concerned, they can split the money saved with the teachers on strike three ways - give it to:
-the kids (books, update technology,...)
-the attorneys
-the negotiating team, BOE and those still working at the schools
Not a penny for the thugs
jane smith
8:16 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Here is your list!! http://strongsvilleeducationassociation.weebly.com/uploads/1/6/5/6/16566314/worth_the_cost.pdf
Pepple's firm is responsible for 8 of the last 12 strikes in Ohio. By the way, please dont make me or another organization find information for you. I know you people have no jobs since your on here all day but cmon can you do some fact checking for yourself or do you just go to Tad, Myron or the ever popular Lyn - wow is she worth her weight in gold! You got a super smart one there.
lyn
8:26 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Now that is funny -
jane smith/amazed told a joke - her proof of something that the teachers are claiming is providing a link to something that the SEA wrote!
Tad Taderson
8:29 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Mr Pepple firm is responsible for the 8 of the last 12 strikes. Really? I wasn't aware Mr. Pepple had a vote within each Union to "strike". I thought that the members voted to strike? I wasn't aware Mr Pepple had the ability to call for a strike, and the members had to go through with it.
So, when we are talking about "Facts", let's get the most basic ones down first...such as, how does a strike happen. It is generally from a vote by members, and non-members (in this case, Mr Pepple) don't have a vote.
Do I have that fact right?
James Murphy
12:54 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
sad fact the Strongsville Board of education has paid the strongsville teachers 297 Million Dollars since 2008 in wages and benefits $297,000,000.00
Johnny Utah
12:54 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I'll give 'amazed' my address and see if he/she has the guts to come spew that mouth at me. This is ridiculous behavior and I as a parent will do everything to find out which teachers are doing this. I will make the parents know each and every one. Amazed - you will be found out and you will be exposed. I've kept my mouth shut and tried to be reasonable, but if you or a teacher thinks it is ok to do 'whatever you want' including scaring confused young kids...you now have a fight on your hands.
Rich
12:54 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed - keep talking ... your posts make you out to be a real A1 jerk.
lyn
12:58 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed - " always have to be violence"?
HUH??? The only violence I have seen was against the sub. Sorry if I can't anticipate what the thugs have next planned in their play book. To me, their actions have become more bullying and could be perceived as threatening by some. So, unless you care to say what you mean by implying they should take it to the next step, which usually means, "look out", one can only imagine the worst.
Myron
1:00 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Anyone that supports this is complete trash. Union or non-union. There should be zero mercy shown to teachers who consciously make a decision to show up at someone's private residence or workplace. I'm so tired of hearing people say "there's some good teachers in there that are being bullied into doing this." What?! They are being bullied into bullying others? Then what the hell kind of example is that for their students? What's that old saying: Actions speak louder than words. Sorry, if you drive your car, walk in front of a guys home with his wife and 10yr old girl inside alone and you go home talking about how you didn't want to be there. Your a coward. Good intentions don't mean $h#t. Go tell your sob story to someone who cares, because in the eyes of this community, you are no better than the fat morons who scream "Rosa Parks" and "Scab" at substitutes and parents.
William Hendershot
2:53 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
It's amazing that they think those tactics will work. Once someone obtusely threatens ones family, any man I know will respond with real wrath. This tactic just guarantees that the BOE will give nothing. Nothing.
Strongsville School Mom
1:02 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The board has a lot of community support. You can't see it but if were to see the many emails going to the board members you would be amazed. I'm sure you would not admit that however. I also know that many emails are asking the board to refrain from any other offers to the SEA and know of some that are asking them to cut back on their offer even further.
John Strong
1:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Two Words;
Fing Idiots...............................
John Strong
1:04 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I hope somebody in the neighborhood has the balls to do something to these overpaid babysitters...................
The challenge has been set forth.
DO IT
John Strong
1:05 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
They are really opening the union playbook and resorting to low life tatics..........
They are scared and losing money..............................
Jackie Moon
1:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The problem is that, unfortunately, it has become reasonable to be unreasonable. The teachers, because of the protection the union affords them, do not worry about their reputation. Let's get one thing straight, teaching (at least these teachers) is not a profession. It is simply a job. When you are a professional, engaged in a profession, your professionalism, integrity and reputation is of ultimate importance. The Strongsville teachers are willing to sacraifce their integrity, professionalism and reputation for money which tells me this is nothing more than a job to them. Pathetic.
Marathon Dad
1:32 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Agree. Teaching becomes less of a "profession" each time they entrench in a mentality of defined job descriptions. Even a skilled mechanic working in a shop has an understanding that they need to keep up with their skills and perform tasks that may not be directly related to the specific action that generates income. Tool management, general cleaning, computer and diagnostic tools training, etc. And the best in the business more because they are the best in the business and they don't mandate "free periods" to take on their own development. They set goals and reach for them as professionals. I have more respect for a motivated technician than half the teachers in the district right now.
Some teachers are so intent on defining exactly what they are required to do they have become complacent in developing their professional and personal skills. That leaves those that get it, and there are many great education professionals in our district, in the worst possible paradigm. Are they educators in a collective, or professionals constantly striving to be the best they can be?
Rex Weber
1:15 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
A dose of reality...
http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-trouble-with-public-sector-unions
Jean Williams
1:15 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
WHAT Jennifer Pelko text ?????
lyn
1:21 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed-
Just like SHADY, won't back up what you say.
Marathon Dad
1:22 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed and others seem bent on blaming the BOE and Pepple for the behavior of the teachers. Character flaws are not created by the actions of others. They've manifested for years in the form of passive aggressive behaviors of many teachers. Operating to explicit contract terms and shunning any proposal that uses quality measures over tenure. Only supporting programs designated in contracts (failure to update PASS, spotty use of the planners and parental communication tools... the list goes on).
The SEA may be a collective but nothing excuses the abhorrent behavior fo the individuals. The teacher's individual character's are on display and they are disgusting.
BOE, draw the line. Replace anyone not back on the job by a the Monday after break. And only allow those who have acted like professionals back in our classrooms. It's time to make the move to a better future for our kids.
Geena
1:22 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Hey Papa, they can't stand up to the union, otherwise they'll be SCABS and get tresspassed against, and bullyed, and receive death threats (which I'm sure is on it's way.) Fire them all. Hey, if this country can rebound after Reagan fired 11,000+ air traffic controllers, SURELY Strongsville can rebound after firing 300+ teachers. The controllers were fired for being greedy. Just like SEA. And when the controllers were told by the president they had 48 hours to get back to work or they would be terminated, you know what their union told them? "Don't worry, they can't fire us all." And they were dead wrong. Their union led them down the wrong path, and 11,345 air traffic controllers and their families paid dearly for it. Just like SEA is doing to the teachers. Guess what SEA, everyone in a job is replaceable!! I've got a damn good and damn important job, and you know what would happen if I died tomorrow? My employer and co-workers would all come to my funeral, cry about how wonderful I was, and then they would REPLACE me!! Strongsville teachers/SEA, get over yourselves. In the big scheme of things, you're not that important or irreplaceable.
Jean Williams
1:27 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
wow Great post Geena
Cecelia
1:27 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Dear Amazed,
If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to spell....
Marathon Dad
1:41 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
In all fairness, sometimes it is just old thumbs on a tiny iPhone keyboard. In a conversational posting environment it is the ideas that count, even ideas counter to one's own. So much like the use of conversational versus literary punctuation ("..." as an example), the occasional spelling or wording eror can certainly be forgiven.
Diane M
1:54 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I think it is wrong to picket in front of a personal home. I am a union person and think they are making a mistake by protesting in front of the board members homes. Like the saying goes you don't take work home with you. I am having a hard time with all of the behavior of the teachers. Shame on you!!!!!
Jackie Moon
2:21 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I've never heard that saying - "you dont' take work home with you." I take work home with me all the time. In fact, I'm always working.
Frazee's Brain
2:58 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Naso had it coming anyway. He's the one who told the newspapers the teachers saved the district millions by taking concessions during the last contract go-round.
Frazee's Brain
3:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Don’t gimme that look. That’s right, let’s get sweaty. Let’s get real sweaty. I’m talkin’ rainforest sweaty. I’m talkin’ swamp sweaty. Let’s fill the bathtub full of sweat…alright.
Cecelia
1:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I'm on my phone too. Did you ever think of reviewing what you write prior to hitting submit? Using "..." at the end of a sentence is grammatically correct when one is leaving it up for discussion. It also means "and so on" or etcetera.
Marathon Dad
3:25 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I must be a product of the SEA. Here's a teacher's version of the King's English:
Mrs. Solecki to her elementary (check me on this) students: "Ur teachers need help....get everyone u can 2 the city hall now - 3:00. We need more people 2 yell at the scabs coming in 2 interview 4 our jobs.
Note... she used an extra dot in ....
Tad Taderson
1:59 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed,
Why the hatred towards me? I don't live in Waterford. Granted, I dismantle you in every debate, but I thought this was an ideological debate between us, and not true hatred. I don't hate you. I do pity you, but I certainly don't hate you.
When you've coasted into the gas station do they allow you to pre-pay with less than a dollar, and when its in loose change?
Look, we all know you're jealous of everyone. You're the slob who avoids mirrors because looking at one makes you cry. Life didn't turn out the way you wanted it to, so you are mad at the world. You lay awake at night and either wonder why your height never caught up to your weight, why Visa won't stop calling about your past due payments, why roaches keep coming back to your kitchen, etc...a series of misfortunes define you. You are a human version of Eore from the winnie the pooh..except you are not lovable.
Everyone who has more than you was "handed it" and is a "snob". Everybody knows your type. Get over it and accept your life or work harder.
Frazee's Brain
2:46 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Exactly Tad. Krupinski and the rest of the administration receives the same sort of benefits that the teachers do, but you don't hear them complaining. Well, Krupinski did try to bum a smoke off me once and I told him to be happy that he had a job.
MICHELLE
2:26 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
"Amazed citizen"..........what did the alleged text from Jennifer Pelko state? And to whom was it sent to if I may ask??
Save Strongsville Schools
2:39 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Say what you want about the teachers, their behavior during this strike and their benefits, but they are not just babysitters. I too am sick of this strike and the actions of few, but teachers here are very, very good. Most teachers, not all, have the ability to teach students of all ability levels, behaviors, and attitudes. It takes skill to teach the learning disabled kid and the gifted kid in the same class. Students come to school with a lot of baggage. We are the products of our environment. Many students come from great homes, but many are from broken homes because of divorce, neglect, and abuse. Strongsville has become more and more diverse over the years, racially and economically. From my experiences, Strongsville teachers are very good at reaching out and teaching all students. My family has been very fortunate.
Again, I am not for all of what the teachers have been doing, but I do appreciate their ability to teach. Teaching is not babysitting.
Frazee's Brain
2:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Emmett, you are correct. Have you seen our classrooms over the last few weeks? They are not just babysitters. We've hired the finest babysitters that our limited budget can buy.
lyn
2:54 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Emmett-
I believe there are good teachers. And they do not have to be employed by Strongsville schools to be a good teacher. I would gladly trade one of these teachers who have shown such poor judgement for others with more character.
It is unrealistic to think that there are only 385 great teachers in the state of Ohio and we have all of them.
And, lets just talk about who you would hire to even babysit the night for your child. You want someone of the moral values and character you want around your child. So, take that to the level of the person you want teaching your children. I don't see that in those striking teachers.
If there are some who are quietly going along but don't agree - they are still guilty by association in my mind. They are adults and should be able to stand up for what they believe in - we teach our children that, why are we giving a free pass to those teaching our kids? And, if there are the number that don't agree with Tracy that people say there are, then what is the problem? They have many to lean on as they cross. They should even demand that Tracy bring the last and final up for a vote - a vote that can be fairly taken and verified.
Steve's neighbor
2:45 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Did you guys hear? Jennifer Pelko sent a text yesterday!! Yeah that's right, Jennifer freaking Pelko! Suck on that union haters, teachers win for sure now. Thanks JP!! You're so awesome!!
Save Strongsville Schools
2:48 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Pelko is administrator at Center. What did the text say? I'm curious.
Steve's neighbor
2:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I don't know but Amazed Citizen was pretty excited about it. Seemed to indicate it made the teachers stronger than ever. Must have been a heck of a text.
lyn
2:57 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Amazed made about 3 statements above that she won't answer - just like SHADY.
lyn
2:54 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
So what is the big secret?
What was the text?
FunFacts
2:58 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Mrs.McMillan from Albion is always a key culprit. I suggest all of the "informed" posters on this blog begin posting the names of teachers who are behaing in a way that our kids would be subject to detention, suspension, or expulsion, had they behaved in a similar fashion in the classrooms of these very teachers. It's time that we begin calling them out by name - the people who read this site can decide for themselves as to whether they should believe whether we are reporting truthfully. I will begin - besides Amy McMillan, I have witnessed Mrs. Rudolph and Mrs. Vasil from Albion, Mrs.Papish from the high school, and Mrs. Cook from Chapman. Who's next - don't be afraid of retaliation - it's time to stand on our principals!!!
John Wells
6:06 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
why do you want us "to stand on our principals", that might be considered violence. how about learning to spell.
FunFacts
6:16 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
John,
Good catch - so much for typing fast and not having spell check. If I was a student who was pro-teacher, they would call my poor spelling "creativity." If I was anti-teacher, I would get a big fat F!
jane smith
8:41 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Yes please report Mrs McMillian's salary to the world! Oh wait not gonna post that one cuz she has been a teacher in the district for 6 years and gets paid LESS then $44, 000. YOU PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID!!!! please find more teachers to fit your agenda.....I loved the examples of teachers who have already retired and yes were really making 80K after 30 YEARS of teaching.
jw93
9:21 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Good point, Jane. Let's try something else.
Kim L, if you can, please find out what these 30+ years teachers, who were able to retire at the ripe old age of 55, are getting paid per year in pension having contributed nothing to that pension.
Kim L
3:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I like the teacher flier idea anyone near hunt and bent tree to get this one
Margaret Kmetz
18118 Bend Dr,Strongsville, OH
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $79,365.00 (based on 184 workdays)
Mom of Two
3:40 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Mrs. Kmetz is an amazing woman. She did not want this. I am not siding with the teachers here because I do not agree with them, but I do NOT agree with you doing this to teachers you do not know! If you had a child that went to her for Speech Therapy or had her as an Intervention Specialist prior, you would NOT be posting HER name. She is one of the people that actually deserves MORE money in that building.
Kim L
3:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
MR Naso Is an Amazing person ETC ETC ETC
Mom we could all just stand in front of
Bernie Kmetz place of employment
at Bridgestone Americas, Inc.
Cleveland/Akron, Ohio Area | Human Resources
Spinnerbait
4:24 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Mrs. Kemetz is a wonderful woman who has taught Special Needs students for years in this district (first at Chapman and now at Albion). Worth every frickin penny she is paid.
Sorry Kim L but you did not pick a good example. Why dont you try Mr Yuska at the HS who in his infenent wisdom the day before the Mid Terms in January decided to show his class "The Lion King"
Tracy Smith
11:11 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim,
I have to stick up for Mrs. Kmetz she is an angel she is the only teacher at Chapman that gives up her lunch hour for social groups she works over 60 hours a week and everytime I see her on the picketline she is in tears (I am surprised the SEA has not sent her home) She does not want to be out there
Rich
8:02 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Is Ms. Kmetz standing on a picket line in front of a school? If she is then she's a phenomenal teacher who made a poor choice to follow the lead of the masses. If she truly cared about her student she would be in her classroom teaching them!!! Her salary is her salary and I have no problem with it. It is the incredible benefit package that all the teachers get that we ultimately have an issue with. I'd welcome them back to work tomorrow if they paid a fair amount for their health insurance and contributed their own money to their retirement plan like I do. I'm not a teacher but I think this is perfect spelling and grammar?
AreUKiddingMe
3:05 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Here is some data to ponder… it is straight from the Buckeye Institute and based on teachers only salaries for 2011. No benefits or pensions are included and the adjusted median is based on the real world 260 days of work in a year. Enough said…FIRE THEM ALL! Pathetic behavior and an embarrassment to the school district and city… If any of us normal people behaved like that we would be terminated!
School Number Median Salary Adjusted Median
SHS 122 66,776 94,357
Albion 38 68,916 97,381
Center 35 70,626 99,798
Chapman 25 66,776 94,357
Drake 23 70,214 99,215
Kinsner 31 71,057 100,406
Muraski 26 66,670 94,208
Surrarrer 21 73,701 104,143
Whitney 20 64,997 91,844
Zellers 22 65,981 93,233
William Hendershot
6:02 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
This is great, but you forgot to add in the 50% they recieve in benefits.
William Hendershot
6:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Receive
lyn
3:06 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Does anyone have a guess what Amazed means by:
" I would take it even a step further if I was the union."
Tracy and her thugs have stepped it up so far to bullying, intimidation and leaving families feeling fearful - what IS the next step?
Kim L
3:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
anyone near echo drive and drake to print and deliver fliers to her neighbors
Karen Halm,
20714 Forestwood Dr, Strongsville, OH 44149
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $79,365.00 (based on 184 workdays)
lyn
3:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L-
Is that before her 10% paid retirement contribution?
Kim L
3:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
anyone near echo drive and drake to print and deliver fliers to her neighbors
Karen Halm,
20714 Forestwood Dr, Strongsville, OH 44149
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $79,365.00 (based on 184 workdays)
plus additional $7900.00 taxpayer funded retirement contribution
Frank
3:31 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L - I suggested this earlier...keep them coming...This is what we need to do!
SvilleRes
3:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Would everyone please stop feeding into the proganda of some bs text until you see evidence of it for yourself? It is obviously today's union ploy. They're like circus monkeys. The "union corporate" comes up with this bs and they all pow wow about tomorrow's strategy while supposedly walking in circles all day. However, this morning Center had 7, Surrarr had 6, Drake had maybe 10, and the high school had more. And out of all that, I saw two that were actually doing any walking. Even if someone posts a supposed text that shows to be from this woman, remember, this is the electronic era. Believe it when you hear it from the horse's mouth. Nobody was motivated or energized at any of the schools I drove by. Believe what you see with your own eyes. This is merely an effort to use social media to push a movement and hopefully get some conventional media attention. Ignore!
Steve's neighbor
3:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
But it was from Jennifer Pelko. Don't you know what that means?? ...I don't, I was hoping you did. They are pumped up laying on their couches reading their awesome texts.
SvilleRes
3:45 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
And, perhaps people should start taking pics/video of the individuals, blow up and make ups so the Sville strike page can make their own wall of shame, with salary info included below. Like for instance, neighbors of the BOE members when these monkeys show up. Film them all or get good individual photos of each. Get them all, so everyone knows exactly what ones are involved in the bad acts, and what ones aren't. Individualize their mob mentality. Take the mob out of it and I bet they start to think twice.
SvilleRes
3:46 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Blow up and make close ups.....
Marathon Dad
3:54 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
No, some of them can keep the clown make up on. It suits them better... (3 dots for effect)
Kim L
3:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
anyone near crownepoint and hunt to print and deliver fliers to her neighbors
Valerie J lascola,
13760 Trenton Oval strongsville, OH
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $79,365.00 (based on 184 workdays)
plus additional $7900.00 taxpayer funded retirement contribution
Steve's neighbor
3:57 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim, I'm really starting to like you. Keep 'em coming
Frank
3:52 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L - I love it - very informative!!!! Keep them coming!
lyn
3:55 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L
I hope you can find some that live in Waterford to shut that idiot up that is so obsessed about people living there.
Marathon Dad
3:59 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Interesting discussion with another parent this afternoon. Started talking about providing an honest assessment of the teachers your children have had. Maybe a document with 10 simple areas of review in 1 to 10 ratings.
Regardless of where their passions fall in this debate, parents could then submit to the BOE with their names to verify direct knowledge. No room for defaming or written comments needed.
Keep it simple. If for no other purpose, the BOD will see the number of parents willing to take a stand for their child's educational well being. And teachers might start to get a sense of what the customer thinks.
So I ask. What would your number one question be.
Scott
4:09 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Fire them all!
Kim L
4:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
anyone near royalton rd and settlers way to print and deliver fliers to her neighbors
LAURA D SCHLEGEL
14387 Thatchers Lane Strongsville, OH 44136,
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $79,365.00 (based on 184 workdays)
plus additional $7900.00 taxpayer funded retirement contribution
John Strong
4:25 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L I want to marry you...
LOL
Autismteacher
4:21 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I am a teacher in district in Medina County and I am appalled and ashamed of the behaviors of the SEA. Many of my good friends are teachers and they are equally apalled. There is no circumstance in which someone would tell me to go to another persons work place or home and picket in front of their neighbors or kids. I don't begrudge them their right to strike, although the board offer is very lucrative when compared to other districts in Nothern Ohio.
This union is particulary aggressive and any teacher who resorts to these tactics needs to look in the mirror at the person they have become over money!! As a teacher, in a public school, I hope that all of you understand that many districts would never behave this way and many, like Medina, are willing to work with districts. As a father of 3 kids in the strongsville schools I am concerned about the damage this will do to the schools.
TEACHERS: shame on you.
Wake up
6:16 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I am disgusted that the SEA has resorted to parents with kids on IEP's and advanced placement students. Go after the district cause they are not providing your child's needs. This is another OEA tactic, stand strong BOE. How can you possibly provide every need for each student when the people that care so much have left you with nothing. The teachers that really care have crossed, the rest are money hungry.
Richard
4:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I've read tons of posts on the Patch, and there were supposed to be teachers that were going to cross for several days now. Question: Is there an ACCURATE report of how many teachers did, in fact cross? I know about the non-union member, the medical issue, and the finance issue. Other than those 3, did any others finally cross?
Frank
4:32 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Autismteacher - You are exactly right. This community will NEVER recover. I do not want these teachers teaching my kids, they are a poor example. I have known this all along. We have 2 graduated, one is a junior at SHS and our youngest is in a private school (not in Strongsville)..purposely. .We have had enough of the crap and it will only get worse....just trying to get our junior out and he will be post secondary at BW next year. Strongsville is NOT the same place it was 20+ years ago when we moved here. Back then the schools were thriving...this was the place to be....not anymore.
William Hendershot
6:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
This community is going to completely recover in exactly six months. Come summer, all the drones will be replaced. It is the dronest hat will never recover.
Lori
8:26 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Frank,
You are right, we do not need these criminals back. T he ones who say they are afraid to cross are just as bad. If they beleive in something that is not morally right and still stand by, they are even more at fault, the others are just plain sheep .
jane smith
8:28 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Your right Frank, they did thrive back then. Funny teachers were still making the same figures comparitively. Wondered what happened???? Oh yeah, the economy tanked and your city found its scapegoat. Oh yeah and your city stopped supporting its teachers and started balming them for everything. Thank god your kids got out. Wow wonder how he got into BW...bet those teachers he has spent the last 17 years with 8 hours a day had nothing to do with it. Your correct on one thing .....this was the place to be. NOT ANYMORE
DISGUSTED
8:43 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Jane Smith did you ever stop to think that these are the parents and tax payers of the kids that you so love, wouldn't it would better that you try to stay on the tax payers good side??? At what point did someone say that taxpayers income is more expendable than yours??? Money does not equal support. Involved parents and community involvment equal support not harrassing and terrorizing a 10 year old. From all of the statistics that I have researched most teachers in this district are more than generously compensated for the work they do in the classroom. Being bitter and name calling will not get the SEA anywhere. What you are doing is justifying our argument of replacing the majority of the teaching staff, somehow the Strongsville teachers got a God-complex and believe that we can't function without them. Reality is that they are ALL wrong! As it has been said numerous of times EVERYONE is replacable.
Rich
8:22 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Jane Smith do you have a money tree in your backyard? Does it grow money on a regular basis for you to spend? Do you have even the first clue what a limited budget is about? Do you realize that teacher's salaries/benefits take up approximately 86% of the budgeted revenue on an annual basis? Where do you suggest the BOE cut besides teacher salaries/benefits? There is no place else to cut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW I believe you are actually a male teacher in Strongsville. No LADY would use the language you use and spew venom the way you do. God forbid you are female as you could possible be the most disgusting pig of a woman on this planet.
StrongDad
8:39 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Why argue with Jane Smith---he/she does not have a money tree--we have the money tree that he/she wants to continue to pick from--he/she has a license to teach in the state of ohio.
The OEA has reached out to all of its members to start harrassing Strongsville residents and to send money to support the strikers.
jw93
8:47 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
jane smith, you are a gem. "The economy tanked and your city found its scapegoat." Um, should the economy have tanked and teachers have been completely insulated from that? Are they a special subset of human that shouldn't have to suffer with the rest of us? Oh, I forgot, you and your kind actually do believe that.
The teachers were making the "same figure comparatively" 20+ years ago? Let's see, the median teacher salary (just salary, mind you, not the Wonderland benefits package) has gone up 39% in the last 10 years. That's more than double inflation during that period, and more than 4 times the median Strongsville taxpayer's increase. Yet you call those "similar figures". You aren't all that bright, are you? And it's likely you are a teacher, so again, you're not really winning hearts and minds with the parents on this board that you are irreplaceable. You are just wanting us to replace you as fast as possible to spare future children from being exposed to your stupidity and bad attitude.
Jackie Moon
4:34 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Librarian???? $79k for organizing the card catalog and "shusshing" kids???
Tad Taderson
4:34 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Steve's Neighbor,
Please do not mistake the power of a text. It can't be confirmed but rumor has it the text said "pls don't tell amazed citizen I'm looking at real estate in waterford. But please do tell her that a salad wouldn't hurt.".
Steve's neighbor
4:57 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
ha..nice..amazed seems to have disappeared..I'm sure she'll be back under a new name later
jane smith
8:35 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
definite ELITIST PIG
jw93
9:25 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Uh oh, I think Jane might be a member of the proletariat. Solidarity, brother! No really, you are a relic of the 70's. Please find your way back there.
lyn
9:40 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
She came back on today as SHADY.
Jane is her really mean personality.
Mom of 5
4:36 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L.
Nice work.....now go after the biggest thieves, the guidence counselors. Wait till u see what they make and can anyone please tell me what they do?
JIm
4:36 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Disgusting. But increasingly desperate... stay strong BOE!
ashleigh
4:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Just came from CCC West, why are they picketing there?
Steve's neighbor
4:59 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Someone said Frazee works there. I'm sure they are really bothering him out there. They are not only unethical, they are extremely stupid. The only ones that will see them are students and Parma residents who will just think they are jackasses.
lyn
7:25 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
They probably aren't getting any sympathy here or enough TV coverage anymore, so they decided to go outside of the city.
Kim L
4:41 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
anyone near gatepost and albion to print and deliver fliers to her neighbors
mary a.whitecar,
10761 PEBBLE BROOK LN in STRONGSVILLE, OHIO
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $78,128.00 (based on 184 workdays)
plus additional $7800.00 taxpayer funded retirement contribution
Kim L
4:42 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
thanks emmett
jabace
4:44 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Fire these idiots and turn your yard sprinklers on and soak the a...holes.
AJK
4:48 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
These teacher's have no class at all and have lost all respect of the community for their childish behavior. To the BOE, "don't budge and give in to these idiots". FIRE them and get some new talent in these schools and show these kids who really cares". These signs the teachers are holding saying that they love their children, they can stick them where the sun doesn't shine. Now they even have the nerve to picket outside the board members houses. I say FIRE Tracy Linscott for leading these teachers to conduct themselves in the manner in which they have. These people have destroyed this school system and are only making it worse.
Kim L
4:52 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
anyone near pearl and fallingwater to print and deliver fliers to her neighbors
Rena M Haluska,
12561 The Bluffs Avenue in STRONGSVILLE, OHIO
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $80,869.00 (based on 184 workdays)
plus additional $8000.00 taxpayer funded retirement contribution
StrongsvilleMother
4:53 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I personally think that Mrs. Naso needs to water her front lawn. It is Spring afterall.
Kim L
5:00 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
anyone near pearl and fallingwater to print and deliver fliers to her neighbors
SUSAN K JANKE,
12432 Woodbriar Circle in STRONGSVILLE, OHIO
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $80,869.00 (based on 184 workdays)
plus additional $8000.00 taxpayer funded retirement contribution
SvilleRes
5:30 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Ironically, someone posted on the End the Strongsville Strike FB page about what a wonderful job their principal is doing throughout the strike, and all the extra effort she's putting in. I'll give everyone 3 guesses who this wonderful prinicipal is that we should all thank. Yes, you guessed it. None other than our very own Mrs. Pelko. Things that make you go hhhmmm. Interesting how our fine little web weavers have disappeared off the grid for now, while plotting their next bs tactic. Remember all, this is the internet. Believe none of what they say and don't even engage in it with them unless they post real proof with their post. Otherwise, it is merely propoganda internet tactics (aka cyber bullying....I think they teach about that at the school?) and you are giving them what they want by taking the bait. IGNORE!
Dig
6:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
What I have come to realize is this sight has become a venting arena for people who have an axe to grind. The problem is they do not do it constructively, checking factual information, are rude, crude, and vulgar. I would print the remaining adjectives but it would be too long. Is it jealousy, I am starting to think so. I think that everyone has a right to make as much as they can.
Kim l, you have the right to print wages. It seems very petty to me. I do not look around to see what other people are making, none of my business. Are you envious of what others earn. The amount of time you spend on this site you could probably be earning a nice wage. The Internet has become a bad invention. Too many loons gather on sites. Look at the pedophiles, sexual predators, killers and other scums. Maybe this site should channel their energies on reducing crime and catching criminals. Before you go there our striking teachers are not criminals.
Can everyone take a break for at least a day, take a breath,look in the mirror, go to church if you believe in a god then come back and be constructive. You may even want to watch the NCAA march madness. Sorry for the long dissertation, but I already see our country losing its morals and would like to keep strongsville out of the sewer as it has gotten there already
Tad Taderson
8:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Correct...everyone has a right to make as much as they can. Except, generally, their boss has something to add to that discussion. In this case, since we pay, we are the boss, so we have a say in the matter.
William Hendershot
10:00 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The strategy of the last 10-15 years for the unions does not seem to be working anymore. (this is speaking of a national strategy) Before that time, it was strike to get your demands filled. Then they went to electing school boards that were sympathetic to their cause. Much easier and neater. The boards just kept putting up levys and they would eventually be rammed thru. this is what transpired in Sville in the 80's and 90's. The benefits were concealed, and the true level of compensation was hidden from the voters.
But reality, and the internet caught up with them, and the fact that the overall compensation levels are two to three times they would be in a competitive marketplace can no longer be hidden.
I'll say this though, watch your back Strongsville. We will probably win this one, but that does not mean we will win the war. The union will surely have a nice slate of school board candidates for the next election.
SHSparent86
10:40 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
There are so many half truths and propaganda floating around now it's getting hard to believe that the whole Goebbels family actually perished in the bunker in 1945.
Michael Thomas
5:36 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The actions of your community are an embarrassment to Ohio. When you all settle this, Superintendent John Krupinski and SEA President Tracy Linscott should both be forced to resign their post if you wish to salvage any dignity your community has left. What horrible leadership on all parts!
Rich
8:29 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Michael Thomas, aka Strongsville teacher, go F yourself. Krupinski will go down in the history of Strongsville as having saved our school system from going bankrupt by not giving in to the ridiculous demands of the overpaid, under worked, imbeciles we still call teachers for some reason.
SvilleRes
5:39 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Michael Thomas, what exactly has Krupinski done wrong?
Mike Hunt
5:44 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
you just can't fix stupid!!!
jane smith
8:30 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Mike - obviously, I mean just take a look in the mirror!
SvilleRes
5:48 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
And who's the stupid one Master Jedi?
William Hendershot
5:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Mr. Krupinski has conducted himself in an honorable and couragous manner in the face of great pressure. His parents, wherever they are, should be proud of their son.
Michael Thomas
6:19 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
William, I couldn’t agree more. And SvilleRes it's not exactly what he has done wrong or right, but more about what he is not doing; and that is facilitating daily discussions with your board members and teachers.
James R
5:57 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
This union and its members have ZERO class. Yeah, I'm sure this BS is going to get you a contract. If you think the union has your back, think again. The union is out for the union and that's it. Teachers unions need to go away - and quick! EVERYONE is replaceable. Just ask Phil Dawson :)
I DON'T CARE what promises were made two years ago, situations change and if the numbers don't shake out, then you get what was offered in the LAST BEST OFFER. Get over it. Negotiations are over, quit embarrassing yourself. You have lost in the Court of Public Opinion. You lost that fight long ago. Perception is reality and you're perceived as greedy and classless and it gets more comical by the day, if you can believe that.
It would behoove you to NOT answer "Strongsville Teacher" when asked what you do for a living. Trust me on this one.
Michael Thomas
6:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
James, not that I agree or disagree with your statement, but the Ohio people voted down the notion of 'LAST BEST OFFER'.
Kim L
5:57 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
anyone near bent tree and hunt to print and deliver fliers to their neighbors
Amy Roalofs
14005 east Bend STRONGSVILLE, OHIO
your neighbor is a UNDERPAID Strongsville teacher
current salary $80,869.00 (based on 184 workdays)
plus additional $8000.00 taxpayer funded retirement contribution
James R
6:01 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Picketing a private residence is what's referred to as "GHETTO"! Stop the GHETTO crap already. To do this and then turn around and whine to the cops because someone was allegedly following you, are you kidding me? You get what you've gotten in the past month - NOTHING. No progress has been made and if I were on the board I'd make sure no progress would ever be made after this stunt. Grow up already!
College degrees and a 6-figure compensation package haven't bought you any class. You either have it or you don't. People are essentially waiting to see what happens next just so they can enjoy a good laugh as your tactics stoop to new lows. This is clearly a show of desperation from an amateur, clearance rack bargaining unit.
Have a great Spring Break! Enjoy your Salisbury Steak. WOW!
jane smith
8:32 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
since your common response on this site is (teacher). Mine can be ELITIST PIG.
jane smith
8:32 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
(ELITIST PIG)
Debbie Palmer
6:20 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
A comment has been removed for violating Patch's terms of use.
Joe Fabeats
6:22 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I hope the strike lasts until the summer because:
1) the cry baby whining teachers need to be fired and replaced
2) I enjoy reading the comments on the Patch
Mike Hunt, are you related to Ben Dover? Stay stong BOE!!!!
Tippy Tom
10:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Genius and a LOL.!!
SHSparent86
10:42 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Has anyone actually seen Mike Hunt?
Really?
6:26 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I live on the east sde but would be more then happy to drive out and help pass fliers.
Brian Cook
6:47 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L,
Terry Kozma retired more than two and a half years ago
Mike Hunt
6:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Unions.....you just can't fix stupid!!!
jane smith
8:33 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Again.....obvioulsy you cant fix stupid...take a look in the mirror
SvilleRes
6:55 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Thanks for clarifying Mr. Hunt.
lyn
7:00 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L-
Just a suggestion -treading lightly here, I don't want you to think I'm telling you what to do-
Keep listing them , but maybe check first on the school website to see if they are listed as current staff.
Just waiting for that Waterford teacher.
Kim L
9:07 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I was at work (multi-tasking) I will double check tomorrows list
JIm
7:19 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
We need to step up here! We need to publish the names of every teacher seen in front of his house and refuse to let any of our children EVER be in a class with that teacher. The bs at his work is awful, but knowingly terrorizing his child is animalistic. THAT cannot be forgiven or forgotten. Please post names when you see this crap going on!!
lyn
7:38 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
So now we know they took this picketing to the regular businesses of Mr. Naso and Mr. Frazee.
Have they gone to any others as well?
What next - outside of Board members places of worship?
I would not put anything beneath these teachers.
Frazee's Brain
6:43 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
I think I saw a few of them inside Christie's.
JIm
7:24 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Half of these animals do not even live here!
DISGUSTED
7:34 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
From a post on cleveland.com it's over half; only 107-117 out of the 383 live in Strongsville...so approx 70% live outside of our city.
jane smith
8:43 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Oh Jim...your posts make me chuckle and by chuckle I mean throw up in my mouth. You disgust me, little man.
jw93
9:32 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Wow Jane, your posts are just full of food for thought. You really embody the type of counterpoints we have come to expect from the pro-union crowd. I really need to rethink my entire life after your barrage of "Elitist Pig" and "Look in the mirror." A truly dizzying intellect. Hey everyone, this person is a teacher! They could actually be in a classroom teaching your kids. Isn't public education, dominated by public unions, grand?
Johnny Blade
7:35 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
All the more reason to seek and destroy this thug run union. This is a desperate move and like all tracy linscott moves it will fail. The BOE needs to start hiring replacements teachers now. That is their legal right and they need to exercise it. Start with tracy and then all of the tenure part timers.
lyn
7:42 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Sad thing is, because of Tracy's union position - she is probably the last one who would be replaced of the 383.
lyn
7:51 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
A few people commented about certain teachers shouldn't be singled out because they are wonderful or great teachers; just go after the bad ones.
IMO, these great teachers are the very ones who should be standing up to head thug Tracy and thinking of their own families and students and cross. And if they are so highly respected, then others will also have the courage to follow. Otherwise, falling in line with Tracy and the OEA means you are just like them - character flaws and all. If you don't want that label, walk away from them and stick up for yourself. That is what we teach our kids.
Marathon Dad
8:41 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Your right but we have to give them some room and a chance. I've been to visit 3 of the teachers we consider top quality. Taken 2 to lunch and one for wings with the kids. Didn't talk strike, gave them a brake. But you can tell their not engaged. Theses are the ones that don't picket at work places or in front of homes. They're the ones that don't try to demonize the subs. But they can't hold out to long. Associate with the minority rabble and it will eventually make a permanent stain on your reputation.
Spring break ends, so should their loyalty to a union that betrayed them.
William Hendershot
7:53 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Not correct. Tracys' tenure is a big part of the strike. The BOE is seeking to have the ability to terminate anyone, regardless of senority if cuts are required. That is why this strike is so bad. I don't see either side giving this one up.
lyn
8:08 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
We are talking about replacing striking workers - not workers under this contract they are negotiating.
Therefore, they would need to replace every teacher for Tracy to not be brought back if the strike was over and replacements were hired. She would probably be the first, because of her union position, to get a position that would open up if a replacement would then quit. But, this is all my understanding of how priority is usually given to union people.
Johnny Blade
8:04 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
When a union decides strike the employer has the right to immediately replace them to keep their business running. The BOE needs to draw a line in the sand and simply state returning in 24 hours or risk losing your part time job.
Tad Taderson
8:12 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
It's so strange the board doesn't want to sit in a room with this garbage when:
1.) They already have issue the best and final, and;
2.) The "adults" on the other side of the table are working scare tactics outside their homes and places of employment.
I really don't get it either, Big Trace. It's strange that these people don't want to sit in the same room with you. A real head scratcher.
lyn
8:18 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
jane smith-
Decided to go back to that name again?
From now on, you are not worth my time - you just want to try and put your spin on things when you guys keep sinking deeper and deeper.
Go ahead and comment - no one will respond. It just gives you credibility and we all know you have none!!
You are so desperate and its showing!!
HA-HA
Lori
8:21 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Parents and community, you need to email the board and tell them we DO NOT WANT THIS POISIN BACK. we have to voice our opinion. We have held back long enough. LETS TAKE BACK OUR SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY. HALF OF THEM DONT LIVE HERE , THEY DONT CARE.
Frazee's Brain
6:40 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Your opinion has been heard. We've decided to replace the 50% who don't live here with the 75% who don't even live in northeast Ohio. Huffmaster vans for everyone
Q
8:27 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Legally, sure they can stand on the sidewalk. But to intentionally bring turmoil, tension, and the unknown to a 10 year old? To any child. At any age. She saw HER elementary teacher outside HER home, (which is SUPPOSED to be anyone's SAFE HAVEN ) with 50 other people she didn't know. What was THIS former teacher thinking? There is no way on God's green earth that little girl can EVER be in a classroom with that teacher and feel safe. I wouldn't feel safe for my child. Why should any of us at this point. Okay, so MAYBE there was no physical intimidation, but that does not mean anything to a 10 year old. The mental intimidation is there and is meant to be there, the former teachers have made sure of that. I can't imagine how confusing it is to these children who have been told to respect and emulate what their teachers have taught them. These children have grown to love these teachers! They are just throwing that love back in their faces, no matter how many "I Love My Kids" signs the teachers parade around with.
Frazee's Brain
6:37 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
That's the beauty of us dragging our feet and not negotiating. The Naso's little girl won't ever have to worry about being in that classroom again with that teacher because it'll be next year. This strike has rejuvinated me! Thanks SEA!
FunFacts
8:44 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
SEA MOTTO: "Every Child Left Behind" 3/4/13
Marathon Dad
8:45 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I don't see a need to debate the legal right to picket homes or businesses. The bottom line is the SEA has demonstrated the underlying morale character flaw of their membership. The same morale charachter that teaches our kids.
My hopes are simple. Start with the "coaches" who got cited and charged and fire them outright. Teachers who used intimidation tactics and it can be proven, make them apologize sincerely, and then fire them outright. Teachers that text minors or otherwise tried to influence them, fire them. We'll still have about 300 teachers to replace be the 83 we keep will be awesome.
jane smith
8:48 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
No comments since lyn's word of wisdom at 7:42pm. Wow all the senior citizens must have went to bed for the night. Sweet dreams little ones. no worries, your city will still be falling to pieces in the morning. Dont worry, dont worry ...i will remind everyone of your view. PEOPLE reading this....it is ALL, ALWAYS the teachers' fault. I think I summed up your opinion pretty nicely and I did it just like you would....without any facts!! PEOPLE READING THIS BE VERY CAREFUL!!! this site has a nasty case of ignorant stupidity. if you read long enough you may catch it too.
William Hendershot
10:06 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I'm pretty satisfied with my M1-A1 brain and I am quite confident my neural paths won't be degraded by visiting this site.
Tina Lewis Kozarik
8:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
This does not appear to be ending any time soon. If you are a teacher and you are considering crossing the picket line to return to your students, check out this Facebook page recently created:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Strongsville-Teachers-Cross-The-Line/114398238753404?ref=tn_tnmn#!/pages/Strongsville-Teachers-Cross-The-Line/114398238753404
Richard
9:08 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
If there are any teachers that would like to cross but are apprehensive, I will gladly provide transportation to and from the Strongsville School of your choice. And if the cafeteria doesn't have what you want, I'll bring your lunch from any Strongsville eatery.
Bernie Madoff
9:57 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I like your style Richard. I will also have my local driver take anyone who chooses to cross to and from work each and every day until this strike is over. I will be happy to provide that service to the teachers that actually have a spine and think/act as individuals.
FunFacts
9:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Attention - below is Tracy Linscott's personal e-mail address. Please pass along to any and all parents who are disgusted with her antics. Take the time to e-mail her and express your opinions of her disgusting activities!!! Also, please get this posted on other websites, blogs, etc....
tracylinscott@gmail.com
Abe
9:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Kim L - this is a neat little game you are playing. Just as an FYI, Rena Haluska retired two years ago after teaching for 35+ years. Anyone know who the board president was 3 years ago so I can paste his name and address?!?!? That'll show them!
Johnny Blade
9:14 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Need to start picketing the homes of the 383. I cannot believe tracy is the voice of the SEA. I thought teachers were smarter.
Kristi Lynch
9:20 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
the teachers union has to go! they are pathetic!
Kristi Lynch
9:21 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Just think how much more we can give our kids for education including extracurricular activities.
It very well could be the only school in ohio with the best of everything and a magnet for everyone desiring to attend.
Furthermore, maybe we can now get serious about education without union bs and give these student an exceptional learning experience.
Ohio is watching to see what the leaders of Strongsville can do without union’s interference and impediments to education that has been dragging our county’s education program down in the world to #19 overall (#40 in some categories’) from the #1 place we held decades long ago.
I think the mayor is only posturing for re-election by the union block vote. He would be wise to let the boe and superintendent continue to restructure the labor force. Everyone will win except the union!
Kristi Lynch
9:21 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The Board continues to negotiate in good faith. We presented a contract proposal that reflects the economic realities of these difficult fiscal times.”
It was reported that the police had to be called to ensure the safety of the Board members and negotiation team.
Strongsville City Schools have installed “pay to play” cost savings measures and reduced expenditures. Expenditures in 2009 were $74,630,680 and were reduced to $67,240,464 in 2012, a decrease of $7,390,216. If the Strongsville City Schools continued on its current path, projected deficits are $1,193,135 for 2014; $4,677,231 for 2015; and $10,863,811 for 2016.
The Strongsville City Schools Board of Education seeks community input and welcomes your questions. As a part of this process, the board reminds the community to write boardofeducation@strongnet.org to connect to the school board or visit our website at www.strongnet.org.
Kristi Lynch
9:22 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
READING WRITING AND ROBBERY!!!
how much is enough? They are holding your kids hostage! It’s all unsustainable!
Congratulations to the Strongsville school board for standing up for the taxpayers!
the teachers union was asleep at the wheel when they failed to get enough teachers union sympathizing candidates up for election to the school board so they could continue to rip off the taxpayers!!!
Its human nature! Public unions will eventually destroy themselves because of their outright in your face greed. They will never have enough to be satisfied. They can’t help themselves from going back to the money trough over and over again until they cut off the hand that feeds them.
Kristi Lynch
9:22 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
avon lake teachers get the following:
The average teacher's salary according to the
school's website is $61,600. (Teachers at top of the pay
scale make $110,151 a year)
The school pays an additional
$17,083/yr for a family health insurance plan
and 14.5 percent of each salary for pension, which
in this case is $8,932/yr for a total average per teacher of $87,615/year!
Teacher aids and assistants to help with class and homework
auto pay incr of $10,000 for masters achieved thru mand CE (no benefit on prep level per president of educ)
5%/yr auto increases in step and level pay
extra pay for longevity
Annuities, life ins, paid time off, vacation time
work roughly 181 days/yr
expected avg monthly retirement between 5,000-9000+/mo (buckeyeinstitute.org)
3% increase/yr in cost of living adjustments in their pensions
Pension spiking as done by applying sick time and cashing in other benefits to their last year of employment this can be as high as $138,694 (lorain assistant police chief Randall Hupp – ref: morn journal 2-8-12) added to the average of their last years of employment boosting their monthly guaranteed pension amount
Kristi Lynch
9:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
why not:
#1 make Ohio a right to work state like Michigan and other states so we can get the public union bums (not private unions) out of Ohio and stop them from ruining our great state!!
cap salary & benefits at $85,000/yr
Eliminate defined benefit plans for teachers and other public union employees for 401k's, why should taxpayers promise 5,000-9000+/mo
Eliminate the drop program for police and fire for 401k’s
Freezes have to do more than just to delay cost of living increases, we need to bring down salary & benefits in line with the private sector
we need to regionalize and privatize public workers as done for teachers in parochial schools whose teachers generally outperform the public sector , cleveland state police, fire, etc.
Kristi Lynch
9:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
time to double down, stay with these private qualified licensed teachers, build aggressively with professional education management teams, save money and hire more. rahm emanuel said 'never let a crisis go to waste"? they are teachers from the same stock just not union.
taxpayers need to realize how much money strongsville was saving replacing union teachers with qualified licensed teachers who have the burning desire to teach our kids. this may very well be the new business model to follow. strongsville voters are perhaps going to be very fortunate.
http://www.seastrike2013.com/seastrike2013/SEAcounter.asp
please show your support and let them know the community supports them and write to the Strongsville superintendent: krupinski@strongnet.org and the school board boardofeducation@strongnet.org
Kristi Lynch
9:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
with outrageous monies continuing to the public union sector we as a nation rank 19th or so in the world when it comes to education and have actually declined as public unions have taken a stronghold in the public sector.
ohio is currently over 66 billion in the red in promises in public union
for pension promises we can't afford we may have to impose a 3% TAX ON ohio over taxed residents as done in Illinois and California to pay for the deficit
the real middle class makes on avg 36,000/yr without health ins and without retirement!
teachers union says it’s all about the kids every time they want a raise otherwise they could care less (most but not all), this was shown on hidden videos taken at get togethers for teachers to discuss their private positions on politics, money and the like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ve2ZjLwro
Kristi Lynch
9:24 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Don’t let the public unions intimidate soccer mom’s by making them pay more to play, cutting music and art, shortening the school day, eliminate busing, using your kids as a bargaining chip or to hold up their signs or do anything else to punish the public to get their greed satisfied! Cut their benys and salaries in half and lower our property taxes by 75% and call it a day!
The REAL Lyn Shady
8:38 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
you do realize that it is the BOE that wants to increase "pay to play"... cut music, art and pe... shorten the school day... eliminate busing.
So you are you are angry at those issues... and rightfully so... but your anger is misdirected... it should be directed towards the BOE
lyn
8:52 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Maybe any of these cuts could be avoided by reducing the teachers compensation package. Why should the kids keep suffering while teachers keep benefiting? Because the schools are there for the teachers?
And lets see, wasn't it Tracy that wanted to increase that pay to play to $1000? Yeah - it the BOE that's the bad guy form not having the money. More like the teachers taking it from the kids.
mark
10:00 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I have tried not to take sides because my concern really is for my kids and the others who attend sv schools but, If this story is in fact true that Mr. Naso's home was picketted by his daughter's current year teacher then I have to say, that is way over the line. If it is true, that teacher has got to go. That really is the behavior of a ghetto thug. I am greatly disturbed by that kind of activity.
Frustrated Papa
9:38 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
If the teachers do return to the classroom, I am greatly concerned with what they will tell the children. The parents, and no other adults for that matter, will not be in the classroom and the teachers will have free reign to say whatever they want to the kids. It really stinks to be a parent during this ridiculous mess!
Richard
10:56 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
You are correct Papa. They have revealed their true colors. You don't erase that by giving them a lurcrative contract. They are who they are, and we will never change that ideogy. Sad, but true....
Johnny Blade
10:02 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Right to work is a beautiful thing. While Detroit is preparing to file for bankruptcy the non union auto plants in the south are doing just fine. No one pushing a broom should be making 25 per hour plus benefits. Part time teachers are well compensated and if the linscotts of the union world are not careful they will go the way of the steel workers and auto workers
Q
10:02 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Mr. Naso said so in the Patch article.
SvilleRes
10:36 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Johnny Blade, careful applying economics principles to them. That's their kryptonite, because they know it would be their demise if applied logically, for the very reasons you state.
For instance, someone posted a few days ago on here that 7 of the union employees make over $175,000, with the President making $270,000, and many many more making over $100,000. The conflict of interest and hidden personal agenda is obvious and the teachers should see this and start fighting for their own interests, not the union's. Like someone else said, it's the biggest pyramid scheme scam around, and the teachers should be looking at where all their union dues are going. Is the union currently serving the SEA members' interests or their own self-serving interests at the expense of the SEA members? And the SEA members paid for this luxury!
%*^%*&*
11:27 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
SvilleRes...here you go. This is not a Strongsville teacher strike. This strike was pushed down their throats from the fat cats in Columbus. They OEA had the right person in place in the SEA to actually buy what was being told and therefore it just rolled down hill. Residents and friends turning on each other its just sickening. All I hear is get the board to negotiate. They need to realize the board is done negotiating but what the OEA and SEA really want is for the board to begin to compromise. There is a distinct, yet small, difference.
Ohio Education Association (OEA) President Patricia Frost-Brooks was paid $267,916 in dues taken from Ohio teachers during fiscal year 2012, according to the union’s latest staff and officer data submitted to the U.S. Department of Labor. More than a hundred OEA employees and officers were paid six figures during the same period, as the union gave $77,500 to progressive groups who demonize “the rich” in the name of bigger government.
http://ohio.mediatrackers.org/2012/12/19/meet-the-bosses-oea/#comments
%*^%*&*
11:46 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
From the perspective of Tracy Linscott, president of the Strongsville Education Association, "It's good we all got to come back. But it was a big shift, with class sizes increasing and teachers having to change subjects and grade levels.
"Don't get me wrong, we're all thankful to have a job," she said.
No longer thankful to have a job? I have no problem with the teachers fighting for a fair deal, however, stop doing it on my children's time, don't do anything that places your family name in bad light and be professional about it. I have an opinion on what the proposals state, however, that's not important. I do know how I would respond if someone was to come protest at my residence or work. I agree its legal but you will have to live with your actions the rest of your life. I can and will back the teachers if they return to the classroom by April 1st. After that date let the chips fall where they may and just maybe Tracy will be lucky enough to state she is still lucky to have a job.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/09/strongsville_teachers_facing_l.html
Lenny
11:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=V_5K6tpnFbw&sns=tw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DV_5K6tpnFbw%26sns%3Dtw
Very funny you tube clip about teachers on picket line.
Rich
8:46 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Saw this last night. Absolutely hilarious!!!
SvilleRes
8:16 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Thanks Jon H. It is unbelievable to me that these educated people as a collective group do not see themselves for what they really are, political pawns being used as collateral damage that are perceived by their superiors to be disposable. It is time for the educated and logical within the ranks to get the group to thinl for themselves and not allow themselves to be used and thrown out like garbage like this, for their own sake, the sake of their families, and our kids (and community, but many don't live here.)
The BOE is not going to back down. When you look at the facts, their offer is very reasonable and still above par of the majority of other school districts in the area and state. Take care of yourself before it is too late and get back to the classroom. Tracy Linscott and the union does NOT have you OR your best interests in mind. Tracy is working for a promotion within the union and the others are working for their own union interests and political motives!
SvilleRes
8:17 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
*do not*
jw93
8:34 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
I decided to take Amazed's advice and do more research on Jennifer Pelko, the author of some alleged text that, in ways that are not visible to the naked eye, allegedly inspired the sheep standing around carrying signs to keep standing around carrying signs. I knew she was the principal at Center Middle School. After speaking with 5 or 6 sets of parents who have had students go through Center, I can also now state that:
1) she works incredibly hard.
2) she cares a great deal about her school and the students who attend.
3) she is admired and respected by pretty much everybody who knows her.
So thank you, Amazed, for inspiring me to learn about someone in our public school system who is hard-working, dedicated, and a fine example to our kids. In other words, someone who is the antithesis of the striking teachers.
jw93
8:37 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
For anyone on this board who is as disgusted with the strikers as I am, if you know or run across one of the school principals, throw in an encouraging word. These people are busting their humps to keep the schools running in spite of the chaos that the former teachers seek to create on a daily basis (for the children, of course). If the board wants to give all of them a huge raise after this debacle, I'm all for it.
lyn
8:47 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
This includes everyone who is still working in the schools - they are all working hard to help the subs and students.
golf77
8:46 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
My open letter I sent by email to the BOE today ( Sorry, it was long and I had to break it up)
First of all BOE, thank from one Strongsville Citizen here. I appreciate the tough job you guys are doing and our up against and I don’t appreciate the unprofessional and bullying tactics these union thugs from SEA and OEA are using. I really wish something legal wise could be done. If these scabs (I have gone from teachers, to strikers, now to scabs) are what represents the Strongsville School System and the City of Strongsville we have a major problem!!! Sorry, but when and if this ever comes to a conclusion, I as a parent would not what those teachers, teaching my children, they are a terrible example and not what represents our city(especially that Tracy person; who is a pathetic liar, somebody who I think has initiated a lot of this bullying stuff and who has not denounce any of these tactics; what does that tell you about this pathetic person, who is called a teacher; scary)
golf77
8:49 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Part 2
Please do not get me wrong but, do the teachers have a difficult job, yes; are they considered one of the most important jobs, yes; do they deserve to better themselves, yes, but within the constraints of the economies of scale and do they have a right to strike, yes, but in a civilized manner. What has been displayed over the past few weeks is appalling. Their tactics going to your homes, place of business, “bullying” the new teachers, disturbing the peace(blocking entrance ways(fire that teacher who got arrested), banging on the buses carrying our young children to school and yelling vulgar language), almost causing bodily harm(teacher driving his car at a bus carrying new teachers(fire him) and the incident on I-71), Inappropriately communicating to students by way of text while they were in school to advise them to be rude and difficult and littering our city with propaganda(by the way, I assisted the city in tearing down the orange flyers, I kept a few, because I wanted to throw them in their face, but decided to be the better person). Have I missed anything???
golf77
8:50 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Part 3 (I think Part 1 is pending approval, sorry)
In my opinion, what has transpired over the past few weeks with the SEA and OEA has changed the course of this strike. I can no longer look at this strike as the demands the scabs were looking for. They have brought this upon themselves and really changed what the purpose of this strike is. In my opinion, it is for the cause of the OEA and SB5. They can care less about our children, the school system, our city and the scabs. The citizens of Strongsville, BOE and the Mayor should really consider this, and stand up and let them know they brought their fight to the wrong community. I think the BOE should stay the course and when and if this all said and done, the offer should include deductions for the following expenses: hiring of subs, hiring of security, replacing “stolen” materials that were paid by the taxpayers and reimbursing our police department for overtime!!!
Thank you for your time BOE, Stay Strong
AJK
9:05 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
If they would have left Police and Fire out of SB5 then it would have passed. These teachers rape the system.
jw93
9:39 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Agreed - I recommend everyone write to John Kasich and tell him that if he modifies SB5 to take out police and fire, it will pass with overwhelming support and will likely never even see a referendum. If he doesn't want to go that far (yet), just pass a bill outlawing teacher strikes in Ohio, just like they have in 27 other states. That would be a slam dunk and we can officially crown this embarrassment as the last teacher strike in the history of Ohio.
Greg Bolger
9:15 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Spray them with your hose or pressure washer they will leave
StrongsvilleMother
9:51 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Just catching up today. Been gone for awhile. I noticed that Mary Whitecar is one of our UNDERPAID teachers making over $80,000. The interesting fact is that her husband, Chuck, who is one of those guys who has been front and center on the strike, was hired 7 months ago into the Strongsville School district as a 3rd grade teacher. He obviously thought Strongsville offered him more than the district he tranferred from. I do not think he realize how many parents are actually laughing at the fact that he feels he has a right to strike about anything! He has been teaching for 7 months! Really? Clearly by the amount of money his wife makes, it can not be because she has been treated unfairly. Surrarrer welcomed him with open arms and unfortunately for him, I don't think he will be returning to the same warm reception. I really wish these teaches would think for themselves. There is no way under the sun that Chuck can justify his behavior.
lyn
10:02 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Gee, I wonder what its like to go without 2 big paychecks each pay period.
Ouch!!
davet
10:37 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxc6kzH-uI
jabace
12:09 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
I thought these greedy scumbags would have accepted the Boards offer by now so they could work on Friday and get paid for spring break. Oh well, enjoy another week of no pay. The board should interview next week for new teachers.
Tina Lewis Kozarik
12:21 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Please don't believe the lies and propaganda on here. Go to www.strongnet.org and check out the proposals for yourselves. And, the BOE is NOT attempting to raise pay to play. Tracy Linscott suggested it be raised to $1000 in the last Finance Committee meeting she attended.
just a mom 2
3:34 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Tracy Linscott is a great teacher and even a better leader, the city better tell the board to negotiate and bring back the true teachers not the child mollesters that they have now
SHSparent86
4:18 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Surely a great leader. Great in leading the former Strongsville teachers to the unemployment line.
lyn
4:50 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Strongsvile child molester - you must mean that kind of "true" Strongsville teacher who got pregnant from doing her high school student?
But Tracy a great leader - in only her mind. She is sacrificing her fellow teachers for her future union aspirations.
PTA Mom
5:08 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
This from a person that called the Strongsville girls softball team (children) a scab team. That would explain why you think Tracy is a great teacher and leader.
Rich
6:42 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Just a mom ... That had to be one of the most irresponsible accusations I have read since this strike started. I sure hope your outlook on things is not a reflection of your parenting skills . I certainly hope you are not near children yourself after making such a ridiculous statement.
Susan Hall
10:37 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
I just need to share this. I spoke with one of my friends tonight who happens to be a teacher at Whitney. When I asked her how she could possible justify the union picketing in neighborhoods and at places of business - to think abuot the innocent neighbors and coworkers who now have to deal with this crap just because of where they live or work - she actually had the nerve to tell me that why should she care about thier inconvenience since no one cares that the teachers are being inconvenienceds.. Now let me re-iterate - we were talking about the innocent neighbors and coworkers of the board workers! Needless to say, she un friended me on FB. Good thing because I would hate to have her see how much I really don't care how much the teachers are being inconvenienced by being on strike. Unbelievable. These are the people you want back into the classrooms. Selfish.
jw93
12:20 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
Just another reason why the so-called "good teachers" who are participating in this travesty are being cowards in not crossing. They're afraid that the idiots they leave behind won't be their friend anymore? Who cares? Why be friends with people like that? They don't work for the union, they work for the taxpayers, and right now, they're failing in their responsibilities.
Mary
10:37 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
The only thing I have to say is that they aren't harming anyone. They may be very annoying and embarrassing but, maybe it will get them the attention they need to get back in their classrooms and get this thing settled! I do feel bad that the little girl is in the middle of it but, nothing else has motivated the BOE to negotiate. What else can they do? Begging and pleading has gotten them nowhere and apparently all of the efforts and losses they've taken for the past 3 to 5 years don't seem to matter either. I am not pro-union nor am I pro-BOE. Replacing them with subs or new hires would be a very bad decision for our schools. It is late in the year and what about all 700 seniors and athletes? Oh but wait, have we forgotten about hem in all of this? Isn't this supposed to be the best part of high school?
I'm not condoning their behavior however all parties involved in this thing have much to answer for and NONE are innocent. We did vote for the BOE that LET this happen. I'm ashamed that I voted for any of them!
All the while this division of our community is only hurting our children. For everyone blaming either side in reality it is all of us. The only way this can be resolved is with unity. We can all agree that we NEED our teachers and we can also agree we NEED this to end! We all have our own views and opinions and no one is going to win in this! The bottom line is that our children are suffering. My kids absolutely hate this! They want some routine and normalcy back.
James Murphy
10:47 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
Mary picketing outside a private residence in my union would be a cardinal infraction and would lead to my termination, all the grievance boards in the world would not save my job.
davet
1:07 am on Friday, March 22, 2013
Unfortunately, the union needs to do this kind of stuff to stay relevant and in the media spotlight. In these types of union/management impasses, there eventually comes a point where one side is met with the one reaction they fear more than anything (even worse than any anger directed toward them) - apathy. The tide is now moving that way.
If it weren't for all of these insane behaviors some of these union members are displaying (which REALLY confuses me, because I cannot figure out their endgame here - why fight against the community who could help you put immense pressure on the BOE?), I would pretty much forget about them and their cause. Just when everything settles down, the union does something outrageous and I'm suddenly reminded that the strike is still going on.
My daughter's class is doing quite well in her "regular" teacher's absence, almost to the point that the strikers and their cause are becoming more and more irrelevant. If this strike does go on much longer, all of the teachers can and will be gradually replaced (even if some still don't believe it) - I've seen it firsthand numerous times. It takes time...unfortunately for the SEA (and again, I cannot believe they're not smart enough to see this), the BOE has a lot of time at their disposal.
The clock is really ticking now. There are certain "milestone" dates coming up - the next being Spring Break. Once we get to around mid-May, the BOE can and will probably ride this out through the Summer.
jw93
12:28 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
Mary, we cannot all agree that we NEED our teachers back. I will be outraged if dozens of them aren't fired and told never to work around kids in this city again. Stop putting teachers on the pedestal they built for themselves. There are two types of teachers striking right now. Good ones who are cowards, and bad ones who are goons and thugs. I suppose I can live with the good ones coming back provided they apologize to everyone in the city for their cowardice. The goons should be exiled from Strongsville.
The BOE did not LET this happen. It happened because they're finally doing their job, which is to represent the taxpayers' and not play paddy-cake with the union every 2 years. The pay and benefits for teachers of questionable value are outrageous in this city. See Chicago, which is now closing 54 schools because it has given such ridiculous compensation and benefits to its teachers (who recently had a 2-week strike and got most of what they wanted) that the district has a $1 billion hole to fill.
And stop with the moral equivalency - well, they're not hurting anyone, and even though it's annoying, can you blame them? What are they supposed to do? Yes, I can blame them. They chose to strike, they choose to act like baboons. Sign the overly generous offer from the board and do your job. Many of us feel the board's offer is too good and should be lowered week by week.
SvilleRes
11:07 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
So, Mary, I take it you are a proponent of extortion then, yes? If your kids don't get their way and they go on a hunger strike, instead of holding your ground after saying no means no, you're going to sit down and negotiate with them for fear that they starve instead of recognizing that at some point the survical instincts will kick in and they will realize who is boss and accept your final word on the matter? And then they learn what? That every single time they want their way, all they have to do is threaten a hunger strike. Extortion!
Mary
12:18 am on Friday, March 22, 2013
SvilleRes,
Are you a BOE member?
jw93
12:31 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
Mary, if you think anyone who questions your kumbayah logic must be a board member, you really haven't taken the pulse of this city. And I believe SvilleRes asked you a question first - are you a proponent of extortion? Is bullying and menacing people an acceptable way to get what you want? Is that what you teach your kids?
Union Yes
11:19 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013
SvilleRes - We checked the laws before we go out to protest and know what we can and cannot do. It's all legal baby! You all seem to hate Tracy, but she wouldn't let us go out there if it was illegal! Get over it! Just hope I don't have to take a dump next time i'm out there, for the Board's sake! LOL!
davet
1:49 am on Friday, March 22, 2013
LOL! Union Yes, you are really adding some much needed levity to this board.
Things have been getting pretty tense on here. I see what you did there...you cited the union's vast knowledge of the law and then made a joke about defecating on someone's lawn (the penalty for which, in Ohio, ranges from a minor misdemeanor to a 3rd degree misdemeanor, with penalties including a fine and/or jail time, but you and the union already knew that). Too bad some of the pro-BOE ideuts on this board can't appreciate your humor like I do. I got the joke, at least. LOL!
Keep 'em coming. Next time, try to work in some juicy material on agency shops, featherbedding, Taft-Hartley, explicit vs. implicit contracts, NLRB, the Steelworkers Trilogy, etc. (you know, all of the stuff us pro-union folks already know about - gotta understand the past to truly appreciate the future, right?). I swear...doesn't it drive you crazy when, in a battle of wits, some people insist on bringing a pea shooter to a gunfight? And a select few on here simply want to spout off ridiculous, nonsensical comments just to get people fired up.
They just don't get our insight, humor, or resolve. Their loss, I suppose. In the end, the community will have no other choice but to cave in to our belligerence and disrespect for others. In fact, the BOE will probably give us MORE than we want! LOL!
Until then, WE SHOULD PROBABLY STOP POSTING ON HERE - that will teach everyone a lesson!
You go first.
LOL!
teacher and proud
12:12 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
if the city would have listened to reason their would not be such division here . Tracy Linscott suggested play to play be raised to $1000 in the last Finance Committee meeting she attended nobody took her up on it
the 2 scab teams the schools are throwing out on the field would have generated $75,000 alone
jw93
12:15 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
Why not make it $3000 and just go for nearly a cool quarter million? After all, parents should constantly be focused on pumping more and more money into the district to keep the teachers happy.
Please tell me you are not really a teacher. It is truly frightening to see examples of the kind of stupidity and bad attitude our kids have been exposed to.
Keep using that "scab" word - so charming. Soon it will be as obsolete as your union.
jabace
12:19 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
Your an idiot and your not entitled to anything. Go do your God given job and be thankful.
jw93
12:34 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
Easy there, Jabace. I believe it is the SEA that believes their jobs were "God given". Those jobs are in fact "taxpayer given." And what we giveth, we can taketh away.
Trying to understand
1:16 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
I am not a resident of the Strongsville district, so I've tried my hardest to stay neutral and silent as I read as much as I could about the strike situation. I am however a parent to children in a nearby district, and a future teacher. After receiving my undergrad business degree, I decided to go back to school to become an elementary teacher- not for the money, benefits, summers off, but because it is what I am passionate about (though the extra perks help of course). I've spent the last three weeks trying to understand from a teachers point of view. And I just don't get it. I don't understand how the union is saying that it is for the kids, but nothing I have read has supported this. The board has come out and said here is our final offer. Take it or leave it. And to me, to many I've talked to outside the situation, their offer is more than fair compensation. Most do not want to be opposed to the teachers' side but I have honestly not seen anything that the the union has said that makes me want to support them. I am willing to listen to what the union has to say. I am willing to keep an open mind. Though, thus far I have only heard about them carrying on like bullies that we try to protect our children against. So, to the Strongsville teachers, and union, please explain to me and to others what exactly are you striking over. What exactly are you harassing others about?
Trying to understand
1:20 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
I get the frustration over pay freezes, but please take a step back and see that it's happening everywhere. No one is signaling you out. No one is trying to make it seem like you are not worth the pay or the community doesn't value you. You are nicely compensated in relation to your peers. Is the fight worth all this strife? Because honestly, people who once supported you are now turning against you.
jw93
1:26 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
You seem to have something the SEA teachers sorely lack, Trying. That would be perspective. After years of being told that they are irreplaceable, underpaid, and the single most important people on Earth, it is shocking to these people that we may not agree. They don't care what pay or benefits are like in the private sector - they just know what they've been repeatedly told, which is whatever they ask for, they're worth it.
I sincerely hope that your clear mind isn't fogged by union propaganda or bullying as you progress into your chosen profession. We need more people with perspective in the public school system, should you choose to go that route. Good luck to you!
Trying to understand
1:35 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013
I have to admit- I'm pretty jaded now. I find it hard to believe that every teacher in the district supports the union in this strike. I know three have crossed the line, but is the union that powerful and strong that teachers against the strike are so terrified of crossing too? Why not stand up for what you believe in? Is it not what you would ask your students to do? Sad. Disheartened and discouraged that becoming a public school teacher also means being forced to join a union who may not have the students and teachers best interest in mind. Ill be watching this situation closely!
lyn
8:47 am on Saturday, March 23, 2013
Union Yes-
RE: "We checked the laws before we go out to protest and know what we can and cannot do. It's all legal baby! ... she wouldn't let us go out there if it was illegal!"
Just like I told you on Wed.-
ORC 4117.11(B)(7)
And what section did the BOE cite when they filed charges for unfair labor practice charges? The exact same one.
You idiots checked? You thugs still think she is leading you to the pot of gold?
Wake up!
She is sacrificing all of you for her greater visions she has for herself.
Kristi Lynch
6:48 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013
In the meantime there should be a police car at each strongsville teachers' strike location to protect the superintendent and boe members' workplace, home property and their children from any potential harm brought on by these union teacher thugs
The following are excerpts from legal opinions published by the Ohio
State Employment Relations Board (known as SERB) cites the the opinions are included:
"Picketing the home of the executive director of the Ohio turnpike commission in connection with a labor dispute is a violation of RC 4117.11(B) In Re Ohio Turnpike Commission SERB-95-014 (9-29-95)
another SERB decision, "Bargaining unit employees who gather near homes of two county officials, signing songs and carrying signs, violate RC 4117.11(B)(7) In Re AFSCME, Ohio Council 8, SERB 90-015 (9-14-90).
It would be easy to prove the union is inducing or encouraging its members to picket at the homes, they are violating the ohio revised codes, the privacy, workplace and jeopardizing their children and families safety. a class action suite should be brought against this teachers union and all their intimidating tactics!
Why don’t we post the names, addresses, and phone numbers and picket these striking teachers’ homes to how they like it
Furthermore, we could save more money if we didn’t have to provide security against the teacher union thugs.
Kristi Lynch
6:49 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013
The Strongsville City Schools Board of Education seeks community input and welcomes your questions. As a part of this process, the board reminds the community to write boardofeducation@strongnet.org to connect to the school board or visit our website at www.strongnet.org.’)
Just think how much more we can give our kids for education including extracurricular activities.
It very well could be the only school in ohio with the best of everything and a magnet for everyone desiring to attend.
Furthermore, maybe we can now get serious about education without union bs and give these student an exceptional learning experience.
Ohio is watching to see what the leaders of Strongsville can do without union’s interference and impediments to education that has been dragging our county’s education program down in the world to #19 overall (#40 in some categories’) from the #1 place we held decades long ago.
let the boe and superintendent continue to restructure the labor force. Everyone will win except the union!
Kristi Lynch
6:50 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013
I’m sorry but this mrs linscott (sea president) is nothing more than the trash she represents for our children. she still has nothing worthwhile to offer the taxpayers and students. They realize their position has substantially weakened over the weeks with no community support including future levies. They are scarred as most of us hope they will lose their jobs! They have shown their true colors, the superintendent and boa need to continue to replace these teachers and build on the academic and extracurricular programs
(‘the Board continues to negotiate in good faith they presented a contract proposal that reflects the economic realities of these difficult fiscal times.”
Strongsville City Schools have installed “pay to play” cost savings measures and reduced expenditures. Expenditures in 2009 were $74,630,680 and were reduced to $67,240,464 in 2012, a decrease of $7,390,216. If the Strongsville City Schools continued on its current path, projected deficits are $1,193,135 for 2014; $4,677,231 for 2015; and $10,863,811 for 2016.