there is all the proof you need that this was just a publicity stunt

the Strongsville Education Association has set a press conference for 12:30 p.m. on Saturday at the North Eastern Ohio Education Association offices in Garfield Heights.
The SEA asked all five school board members to attend a negotiating session on Saturday

What a bunch of losers. Why don't you hand in 30% of your pay and I'll stand outside with a sign telling you how you don't deserve any better than that?

Stall tactics are not putting the BAFO to a vote because Linscott knows it would very likely pass at this point. BOE, end the issue. I'll bet there are more than a few well qualified teachers in other districts who would except the final offer. Bad move, they never expected the board to live up to it's mandate from the voters and finally put a contract in place that works for the kids.

Its our money, Tina! Go panhandle somewhere else!

Candid,

I didn't tell you to leave the corner. Go back.

The power behind this is the 9-1 and 8-2 beatdowns of the last two requests for tax increases. And after a strike it would be even more lopsided. We can only hope the teachers persist with this delusional behavior until summer, at which time it will be completely over for the "best and brightest". Anyone with a brain knows it's over now; lets' just hope the teachers figure it out sometime next year.

Kind of quiet in here tonight. Embarrassment got your tongue?

what a joke, about 100 people? maybe?
You sville patch crowd are pathetic. Big mouths, but afraid to get away from the almighty keyboard.
Debbie Palmer showing her true colors, not even a mention about how "many" people were there..
A joke, all of you.

Candid,

I absolutely tell you want to do. I always have. I always will.

Most of us are celebrating with a bottle of Screaming Eagle right now. You don't know what that is. Google it. You'll never have one.

Later in the evening, the crowd grew significantly. That's what happens when you schedule something to last from 3 - 7. Should ahve been planned better, but I'll tell you what, people were honking there horms like crazy with thumbs up! Unlike the teachers, where it's a honk of the horn and a finger out the window.

CandidResident - There could have been 25 people there and that doesn't change the fact that this strike will go down in history as one of the most embarassing ever. Teachers outside of Strongsville think are teachers are insane when they look at what's in their contract. Tracy Linscott is nothing short of an absolute uniformed POS. She's made a bunch a great teachers look like fools. I guess Tracy didn't get enough attention in High School. After our city is left divided and in shambles that quack goes back to her $500K home in another city. I've seen her enough on TV, maybe she shoud meet up with some of those Waterford Moms you mention and do something with her hair.....

Not wanting to take sides here but there are 2 points that I think should be addressed. 1, what about board members bonuses if any, how much? And why has that issue not been covered in the press?
2, the fact that the board hires legal counsel to do their negotiations seems to me to be insincere, I mean if you and I need to settle a dispute would you want to negotiate with me or say my cousins wife who lives in brookpark?

The Board has received Raises and Incentives totaling > $400,000 since 2008. Public information

Mark, when you are to the point that you are attending mediations, that is a form of a legal proceeding. Contract negotiations, mediation....all legal in nature. You know what they say? Only a fool represents himself in a legal matter. I would be angry at the BOE if they didn't have an attorney. They need the expert in these matters. The union has theirs. Anybody whining about the attorney is truthfully only exercising more bullying tactics, asking the board to go into the equivalent of a gunfight completely unarmed, so they can get completely taken advantage of, which is EXACTLY why their failed leader is asking them to blindly show up at a meeting tomorrow without their counsel, and exactly why their counsel said hell no. Anybody crying about the BOE attorney shows either their true biased union colors (and thus hidden agenda) or their complete and utter ignorance of the ways of the business world.

Make up your mind C, is that the Board or the Administration, because earlier you and your sidekicks were claiming it was the Adminstration as a whole, which is a much larger pool of people. Seeing as how the BOE members are only paid $125 per meeting, it seems pretty hard for 5 people to get to over $400,000 that quickly? People have asked you and your pals to post your source to these claims, but repeatedly you refuse. So, we'll assume they are more lies and propoganda by you lr uncredible union.

Ok, perhaps I was somewhat ignorant but, I would like to see the 2 sides locked in a room untill an agreement is reached.

We had close to 200 people at the event tonight which is REALLY good given we had 5 days to plan and organize and it was on a cold, rainy Friday evening. Next Saturday from 4-7 we'll be out in even larger crowds, hopefully closer to 400 people.

Not sure who thought the news media was laughing at us considering all of them were clamoring to get interviews with us before the event even started and told us we were the #1 news story for the day and they'd be going "live" to our press conference at 5:00 PM for the news.

Everyone did a great job, our organizer and speaker did an AWESOME JOB with his speech which the media only showed a couple clips from. Next Saturday it's on, 4pm-7pm at the clock tower!

I will be there conducting a weather experiment.

Could we put the attorney issue to bed? Having served on 2 different school boards, there were always attorneys involved. It is to protect the school district, just as the union has attorneys to protect their membership. Many school districts have an attorney or attorneys on retainer because there are so many legal issues school districts have to deal with. Try dismissing any employee for just cause without an attorney. In this day and age, I don't believe you will ever see that. So Strongsville has an attorney, and he probably gets paid well. It's a fact of life.

Tax dad, I have 2 girls in school here. I just want this thing over 1 way or the other. The bottom line is my kids, and the last 2 weeks have been a complete waste of time for them educationaly.

Funny. I was there for most of it and I thought there was more like 50 people there and most of them were rude. Of course maybe that's because I was there supporting the teachers and the students. I had more than one person come up and yell in my face and even saw one high school student that was there supporting her teachers try to have a meaningful discussion with someone holding a "We Support a Good Example" sign, yell in her face, but most of you that were there probably didn't see that happen because you all split as soon as all the TV cameras left. AWESOME JOB.

Ohio Education Association (OEA) President Patricia Frost-Brooks was paid $267,916 in dues taken from Ohio teachers during fiscal year 2012, according to the union’s latest staff and officer data submitted to the U.S. Department of Labor. More than a hundred OEA employees and officers were paid six figures during the same period, as the union gave $77,500 to progressive groups who demonize “the rich” in the name of bigger government.

http://ohio.mediatrackers.org/2012/12/19/meet-the-bosses-oea/#comments

Candid Resident and Amazed Citizen, if you want to see stellar support just drive by any of the schools during the day, especially Zellers where there were about 7 or 8 picketers huddled together, not even moving and their signs were stuck in the chain link fence. Day 7....the signs are getting heavy. WOW! What a proud display! JLynn, a teacher supporter calling someone rude for standing up for what they believe in.....well isn't that calling the kettle black. It's almost as good as a teacher holding a sign at the high school saying "Bullies belong in detention, not on the Board" as they scream through the windows at us. After th way these teachers have acted over the past two weeks, I wouldn't be pointing fingers.

Teachers Unions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxc6kzH-uI

CANDID AND C WATCH THE VIDEO there is a whole month full of talking points for you in here (you have only used half of these)

Candid, sure no one is blocking you now, they're not doing anything. They are looking at each other hoping the rest cave in soon so they can follow. Face it, you're done. They'll be back to work in no more than two weeks, at the BOE's terms. The BOE should start pulling things off the table now. They are totally in the driver's seat. hahahahahahahah!

From the perspective of Tracy Linscott, president of the Strongsville Education Association, "It's good we all got to come back. But it was a big shift, with class sizes increasing and teachers having to change subjects and grade levels.

"Don't get me wrong, we're all thankful to have a job," she said.

No longer thankful to have a job?
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/09/strongsville_teachers_facing_l.html

Losers and Yowling Buffoons! Wow! Nice comments just because I stood in the rain for three hours showing the community in which I reside in, that I support my students, community and schools. Thanks! FYI....I didn't see any problems with anyone's behaviour. Just heard channel 5 describe us as a "huge" crowd on 11:00pm news. JLynn, I'm not even sure I believe you were there because you seemed to see things I saw none of. Different street corner, or city maybe ?
]Also JLynn, are you actually "Shady Lady?" You certainly seem to be drinking that same koolaid.

One look at the photos and I must say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

CANDID, you just made a case for the fact that you are clueless. The Board is what we call "the client." They have all kinds of fun little tasks throughout the year, not the least of which is putting up with whiny people. Now, see, they find themselves in the middle of what we call a legal matter, which requires them to hire the expertise of a professional called a lawyer to represent their interests and advocate on their behalf. These lawyer people are truly amazing, by the teachers' standards. They have at least 7 years of post-graduate education, a doctorate to boot, must maintain at least one license, keep up with continuing education, work over 40 hours a week and more than 5 days a week on average, have to bring work home, have a higher risk of being shot by their client/opposing party or run of the mill crazy person at a courthouse and yet they do it without whining about it or crying about their working conditions. And no, most don't get to bill for it all and make a ton off of it. To the contrary, when we extrapolate out the Strongsville teachers' salaries, they are making more or the same as many of the lawyers.

Now, we haven't even begun to discuss those crazy doctors and what they endure for their wage, their education, etc. But keep jumping up and down about how the teachers deserve it or are worth it. Heck, you can't even figure out the lawyer's role versus the Board's role in this matter. Perhaps you should rent The Firm or The Client, to give yourself at least a Hollywood, superficial understanding of the legal system in the US. I think my amazingly awesome teachers taught me all about it in US Gov or Poli Sci. On second thought, no, it was the John Grisham novels and LA law episodes.

Hey Candid, you are right it is getting old, it's time they stop....oh wait, they are the picketers are taking shifts and huddling. i guess an 8 hour day is just too much for them. By the way, I never mentioned their idiotic behavior "in the early days". I think you have a real issue with estimating the size of a group, there were more than "a few".

Ignore Candid....everyone here knows they are a clown.

CPA Again...a little birdie told me what you look like. WORST BODY IN STRONGSVILLE. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

Q your a first class ass.

The teachers have destroyed this city. When a community has supported this school district throughout the years and then gets told they haven't done enough wont go unnoticed. The residents are monitoring this board but don't post. Unfortunately, the teachers have lost the support and more importantly the trust of this community. Too bad the teachers that didn't want this will be lumped in with the 'visible' few, but that's the chance you take when you unite with a group. The parents will not forget the damage that has been done for several years. You real what you sow

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Dave I agree with you. When I found out the PTA was on their wall of shame because parents helped out in the classroom and used their own money to bring in donuts for the entire staff (principal, secretary, aides, monitors and subs etc.) I was shocked. Why would you alienate the people who have helped you so much in the past? Is it true they want the PTA to be disbanded when they come back? And then to target small business owners (ex. Goldies) on their wall of shame because he wouldn't let them use his bathroom. Disgraceful!! Now they are targeting another small business owner that has done so much for our community. How many groups of people are you going to anger and how much more support can you lose for the schools and our kids by these childish actions?

Candid, I've been monitoring this board for quite awhile and you may be the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. You insult those who post regularly as "having no life," but you seem to be posting double the amount of what everyone else is. You critique how many people were at a last minute student/parent rally, yet the SEA rally that had actual meetings to plan for it didn't even have enough people to cover the amount of striking teachers. You are also seem to have an extreme dislike for anyone living in Waterford Crossing, as someone else has pointed out previously. Did your house foreclose there or something and you are bitter with the women who still live there? Maybe if you stop hating on everyone that has things you obviously cannot afford or do not have the ability to attain on your own, you would actually get away from your computer enough to enjoy life and stop talking about Waterford crossing, how much better the other rally was than the parents and how hard the people at Channel 5 were laughing. You literally sound like a pathetic, sad freshman in high school, more concerned with gossiping and bringing those more successful than you down than actually doing anything for yourself.

Its called class envy and its a bad thing to have. In a Country that rewards hard work, having it, is generally a sign that someone is ignoring the fact they are lazy. Another bad characteristic.

I had not heard that about the PTA. That is crazy and is a big mistake. The PTA has announced several times that they will remain neutral. Besides, PTA stands for parent/teacher association. Right now the PTA should support the teachers in the classrooms trying to teach our children under miserable conditions. When will our striking teachers realize they are replaceable. The PTA doesn't exist just for them. For a group that claims to be all about the kids, all of their actions demonstrate otherwise. Besides, those union idiots have no idea who is paying for the supplies or donuts. I took supplies myself, that I paid for, into my child's classroom and will continue to do so that her teachers can teach. Period. You guys need to really get over yourselves. Actions have consequences. Even our kids get that message.

My St Patty Day prediction is the SEA will sign an agreement tomorrow night regardless of the terms. They will spin it to the sheep in the Union to make it appear that they fought so hard for "working condition" changes when reality is they received nothing except continuation of great health insurance and high pay. (mortgages are coming due---need a paycheck!) Tracy and Mr. Pepple will be seen at Buca Di Beppo in the Pope room having dinner. Meatball anyone?

Tracy, quit hiding behind false name Candid Resident.
you are a fat pig!!! and let the teachers have a private vote.. we know they want to cross. the only one's that want to hold out are the one's who will be retiring soon. they don't care about the rest.

I would still like to know about these "working conditions" that Tracy keeps talking about. Didn't we just pass a levy to build a new junior high school? How come nobody especially the media when they have Tracy on camera will not ask that question?

Anybody ever go into the high school and check out the teacher's mezzanine upstairs. Really nice place, maybe the temps are off by a degree and that is what is meant by "working conditions"

I am so saddened by the constant denigration of the teachers involved in this horrible strike. I have yet to see one logical argument against the strike. Only constant name calling and belittling. A community's teachers are the future of the community. You trust your most precious possession to them, in many cases for more waking hours of the day than you are with them. Yet you berate them, call them names, and treat them with absolutely no respect. Have you even really tried to learn why they are on strike? Have you even looked into the behavior of the board? Why are you so quick to blame the teachers? I just don't understand. This strike will be over one day and you will be left with a broken community, with teachers filled with resentment towards parents and administrators, not because they didn't "win" in the strike, but because of the hatred you have shown them. Why? And, no, I'm not a teacher and I don't live in Strongsville. Just an observer with nothing but respect for our teachers AND our school administrators.