nice .....so if they are on strike for 30 days they will have saved the district enough money to give them a raise

Awesome. Thanks. For actual days worked most teachers are making around 500.00 per day.

Awesome.

** The average professional worker has 2 weeks of vacation thereby working 50 weeks a year. Many in the professional world have 3 or even 4 weeks of vacation.
**The average worker gets 5 paid holidays…most in the business world get 10. So they work 49 weeks a year times 5 working days a year…245 total working days.
**I work 186 contractual days.
**Teachers are at school for at least one hour extra a day. Some arrive early, some stay late, so one hour is a low estimate. 180 X 1 = 180
**On the low end, teachers work a minimum of 2 extra hours for every day school is in session. 10 hours a week is a very low figure for most of the teachers I know. Anyone who calls that number high simply has never lived with a teacher. 180 x 2 = 360
**540 extra hours /8 = 67.5 extra days per year
**The typical response to this is “every job requires extra working time at home” so to that I add on the extra days that are spent setting up the classroom before school, the days in the summer spent working on curriculum, the extra classes that are taken using our own time and money. A teacher with a Masters + 30 would have worked 4-5 full semesters at a university equating to 2-3 years of extra schooling.
So my 186 days + 67.5 = 253.5 days worked per year. I am actually working MORE days per year than the haters who love to throw around that 180 number.

And while we are at it, stop spouting $80,000 when that is the most a teacher will ever make. Try an average over their lifetime. The average for me is less than $60,000…and that included all of my retirement. That works out to be an average of less than $30 hour.
With 150 students you pay me a whopping $.20 per day per student.
So sick of your disrespect for the kind of expertise I bring to the classroom. You will get what you pay for when the best teachers leave and/or fade out of the system. Anxious to check in on the Patch in 10 years to see all the fine teachers you have attracted to Strongsville.

you should take your own advice then

Fire the teachers.

I am amazed at the venom on here toward the teachers. Why would you even live in Strongsville and put your children in school with people you have so little respect. I don't know why these people even give a s**t if your children get a good education. You sure as hell don't care. strongsvilleresident go find a job with summers off, but to make it even you have to work most weekends the rest of the year and you will have to work most evenings so forget going to anything for your family. Your head is so far up your own butt I am sure you are starting to see breaks of light at the top. Where are you going to move next after you have ruined this school system? I want to make sure I don't go there.

CLAIM:
“If the Strongsville City Schools continued on its current path, projected deficits are $1,193,135 for 2014; $4,677,231 for 2015; and $10,863,811 for 2016.” (from BOE News Release)
FACT:
These numbers come from Strongsville’s current FY 2013 Five Year Forecast. Beyond the current year, Strongsville’s 5 Year Forecasts are historically very wrong. Consider that the actual FY 2012 end-of-year cash balance was $2,535,361.
According to the 2011 5 Year Forecast, the end-of-year deficit for FY 2012 was projected to be $7,098,400. This is a one-year projection error of $9,633,761
Moreover, according to the 2010 5 Year Forecast, the end-of-year deficit for FY 2012 was projected to be $13,910,700. This is a two-year projection error of $16,446,061
The actual FY 2011 end-of-year cash balance was $542,420. According to the 2010 5 Year Forecast, the end-of-year deficit for FY 2011 was projected to be $7,134,500. This is a one-year projection error of $7,676,920!
The 2013 5 Year Forecast projects FY 2013 end-of-year cash balance to be $314,936. Incredibly, the 2011 5 Year Forecast projected a FY 2013 end-of-year deficit of $23,435,200, a two-year forecast change of $23,750,136
With a historical record of incredible inaccuracy like this, the “projection” figures released by the Board on its website are clearly arbitrary, meaningless figures.

Sorry John, I assumed it was.

Nice website John. It will be interesting to see the totals in June.

yes I have actually talked to moms whose children were given the same instructions from their teachers, like an extra credit project to misbehave

Its really sad that the teachers knew the HS kids would act this way and used them like this. Anti Bully ya right!

Way to go. Good lesson to teach your kid. Do "whatever" it takes to get whatever you want, at any cost.

What a crock. Don't you have children to take care of. Remember them? The ones you care so much for. Or are you just trolls?

WHAT !!! THAT LITTLE ______ her useless striking parent programmed her well

I hope every police officer and firefighter in the city sees this example of how above everyone else these teachers think they are

The real reason the students at the high school are behaving this way is because they were told by their teachers last week they needed them to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. They told them to make sure the subs were unable to teach. I know this FIRST HAND. It is NOT rumor. Why would teachers who claim to care about the students ask them to do something like that? They are also welcoming them onto the picket line with open arms. Such a sad day for the city. And those few upper level teachers are making the dozens of really wonderful teachers we have look bad.

Dave - If the "Educators" stay on strike until June, the honoring of grades given by "subs" becomes a non-issue. Or, better yet, I would like to see The Board fire them all.
The "Educators" have created an atmosphere of fear among students, with all of their propaganda.
Parents - if you are fearing repercussions against your child, in the event that you report "Educator" abuses to the proper authorities, then you have allowed the Bullies to prevail. And, the "Educator" bullies (and their union) will become stronger.

I hope by the time your youngest in at the High School you will get the education you want to fund. Then you will have a good comparison. Too bad for your youngest child

dimwit you pay a sub 175.00 while a senior teacher loses 450.00 per day that buys a lot of security guards

Kim certainly does not play nice in the sandbox. Hope she is not armed..geeze

You would have to be an idiot to think on the very 1st day of the strike everything would be in place. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that. I prepared my children. Life is sometimes a little bit messy. Thanks the teachers on the sidewalk for the conditions we are all facing. Direct your anger to the right people. Those standing out in the cold, who earn a great living with benefits, but who decided to put their needs above your child. I have children in Surrarrer elementary and at the high school. Surrarrer was prepared and the kids had a great day. It made them feel better because the teachers (subs) were terrific. The high school was not prepared for the number of kids. No one is disputing that. Give them time and everything will work out. For the record ..."the sky is not falling"!

mom who are you trying to kid !!! the board had less than 12 hours (8 pm strike vote) to get replacement teachers in place. the union could have voted sunday to hold off on the strike for 1 more week, and pre-hired subs would have cost the district money, so they could not hire them till after 8 pm

I am happy that 46 students showed up. All the schools had better than expected attendance. At least the parents have their priorities right. They should be in the classrooms not at home.

which elementary school had only 2 - 3 subs in the entire school yesterday ??? ALLEN

I think Strongsville Mom might have a hard time backing up her allegations. Please do not confuse Strongsville Mom with StrongsvilleMother. We clearly are not the same person. She seems to have disappeared. I did not hear of any elementary school with only 2 or 3 subs.

secotor is spelled wrong, the correct spelling is sector.

Sorry Bob S
Johns strongsville teacher was too busy that day counting her money, to teach him the correct spelling for the word SECTOR

there is no way I will vote for that, I will move out of this city first

If you don't like what the teachers union is doing you have actually vote when levies are on the ballot. If you don't vote, don't bitch.
Teachers are like everyone else, they'll take and take until the well runs dry.
Folks, the well is dry!

Might as well just link to OhioGOP.org

Right wing Tea Party BS. If you want to quote something make sure you know who and what you are quoting. May as well quote the John Birch Society or go even further off the ranch and quote any of the sovereign citizens groups. Seems that is where Strongsville is heading and that makes it not a fit place to live or shop. So I hope other unions will boycott your businesses. Why not you people obviously hate unions as well as teachers. Do you hate your union cops and firefighters as well?

NOt to mention that 84,000 is for 9 months of work. Makes ya kinda sick.

Ed W - Very well said!

I agree.
How can they be effective and even handle any discipline problems now? They have told the students to act the way they did yesterday to make it difficult for the subs. By doing so, they just condoned that action and have no right to object to anything like it, if they return.
The city will long after have a black eye because of their actions and I want some healing with a fresh, eager group. Not this bitter bunch. That is the attitude they will have and bring.

As I said before, the administration and board has changed many times over the years. The only constant has been the teachers and their union here - and the attitude they bring with them.
So, when someone says things have been like this for many, many years - that should indicate where the problem is.
If your football team is not performing, and you keep replacing the coach, and still the team doesn't deliver, then you start replacing the players. Now its time to replace those players - the teachers.

I wish there was a like button for that comment Ed W

Then why are the Cleveland Schools not rated as such. When they have one excellent student make it like so many of yours do, It is on TV. In Strongsville it has become old hat to have excellent rating. You somehow think you are entitled to the excellent rating and good little teachers that take what you throw at them. Strongesville thinks it is in the top 1% and everyone else must bow to them. This is your fieifdom and the teachers are your serfs. One day there just won't be anymore kids wanting to be teachers after watching YOUR bad behavior. One of the part-time worker full time students where my daughter works changed his curiculum when SB 3 battle was going on. He didn't want that future to be a part of his future. Just any warm body can pull off an excellent rating? Are you out of your mind? I had a bad teacher like that where there was no union. He sat and read the National Enquirer and when he found something funny he read it to us. The rest of the time we just read our books. The classroom was so crowded that those that sat in the middle had to go in first and climb over the desks. Classroom size does matter. Think that school could get an excellent rating. He was the criteria you want. And he taught until he retired. No thanks. I want more for my children. Maybe you have lower standards. Move to Cleveland you'll fit in

The way you people are talking about other human beings shows you are instilling shi**y values in your kids. I hope those teacher now realize what they are dealing with. Most of them spend their own money buying supplies for your brats. Now they need to send a list home for all you warm fuzzy parents to skip off to the mall and buy it yourself. If you think they are so bad maybe you could get the board to get you a couple of those cheap charter schools with non certified and non union teachers and you could take your little brats there. After all when Kasuck the Gov is done with taking money out of the school system you may be lucky to get charter schools. He has said he wants more of them in the state. They are also schools that are for profit. I am sure the teachers are first rate and your brats will get a sterling education. After the first year they probably will have to change schools when theirs closes and then the next year. I hear there is one in Cleveland that has been there for a while. It is ran by Muslims. How about that school for your darlings? It was on 60 minutes and they are bringing teachers here from Kuwait, Chec Repub and some don't speak such good English. Right up your alley.

Linda - "it is RAN by Muslims"..."And, some don't speak such good English" - really? From what I am reading in your most current post, your English isn't very good either.

I hope you're not an "Educator"!!

No you are digging the grave of your schooldsystem

The mayor is overhead too, so are the firefighters, school administrators and so on..

Four comments in a row? You really must like to hear yourself talk. I would hate to have to sit next to you on Thanksgiving.

Dave-
But they might have aproblem finding work now in the same field.
How many other districts would want to hire someone that lists Strongsville on their resume? There are so few strikes in Ohio and these teachers have acted so poorly, no district would want that element in their district. Would you want someone who exhibits such poor character, despite the skills they might have?

I have returned.. Decided to take a break..your head spins reading all this nonsense...miss a few days...miss a a lot. Post every second of the day...intense therapy needed!!! I truly do not know how those that post every second of the day do it. They have to be neglecting something in there life!!!!!

Linda - "They have been neglecting something in THERE life" - I hope you mean THEIR......Are you an English "Educator"?

I tend to agree I think the only safe place right now is IN school away from these animals we used to call teachers

uh huh right , but at that same time right outside the window a group of striking teachers were beating a poor little baby seal to death

Denise - It sounds like your nephew is a good kid. Isn't it to bad that he has been indoctrinated by the "Educators"? It infuriates me, that for years, the "Educators" in Strongsville have discussed levies, strikes, etc. with children in the classroom.

This sweet child is ready to give up his savings, to help the "POOR Educators". I hope you or the child's parents explain to him the true facts of the situation. We can only overcome indoctrination by fighting back with the facts.

If anyone is wondering where the younger generation's sense of entitlement comes from - It starts in the classroom, with "Educators".

Linda great point these teachers are in a school district which is in the Excellence with Distinction category,
and since you are saying that the teachers did this on their own, then they should not mind being paid by merit rated increases, because linda great teachers like that should have nothing to fear

Linda-
Imagine this-
Swap our teachers with those in Cleveland.
Do you really think now Cleveland becomes a district excellent with distinction and Strongsville becomes rated academic watch? Really? Because that is what you are saying - It got that way because of the teachers.Period.

It is first because of the student.
Second the family - which has instilled the value of getting an education.
Then your community you live in contributes t that rating - if its economically poor, then the students have other distractions.
And a teacher is important in that formula. I said A teacher - not these teachers.

Linda-
your comment-
" ...like Cleveland and see you and your childrens future if you keep up acting like the dirty unwashed uneducated buffoons."

and what is that code for?

I am actually the good speller, but I did have a grammar error in one of my postings...Thank goodness for Terri..loves to correct people.. I have a sister -in- law that frequently does that and my is it annoying...the family dreads hanging out with her at family functions. All of us make sure we brush up on our use of their, there, they are, they're before we see her.. she is a genius..

What high school? Here.hee. Tell the truth...yours truly ...it's me...Linda 1