Strongsville Teachers Shout at Subs as they Apply to Replace Them
More than 100 SEA members hassle potential substitute teachers
A large group of Strongsville teachers jeered potential substitutes as they applied for jobs at City Council chambers Sunday morning.
Shouting "scab" and "this is our house," the teachers lined the sidewalks in front of the Strongsville Police Station during an open application session.
Superintendent John Krupinski said at least 100 potential substitutes applied for positions in Strongsville schools starting Monday, when teachers are expected to begin a strike.
"They are being fingerprinted and undergoing a background check," Krupinski said. "No one goes anywhere unless they pass it."
Meghan Paris of Cleveland, who has been a substitute teacher for four years, said she was hassled when she walked in to fill out an application.
"This lady was screaming in my face, calling me every name in the book," Paris said. "They said I was taking their job. But you're striking -- I'm not taking your job."
The Strongsville Education Association, which represents the teachers, is expected to meet at 5 p.m. today to take a strike vote.
SEA President Tracy Linscott said the members were there Sunday morning to show the replacement teachers they were not welcome and show the community that the subs cannot fill existing teachers' shoes.
Linscott predicted that next week, "Strongsville City Schools is going to be a shell of what it once was.
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-- See attached video for more from Linscott --
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Police Chief James Kobak said there were no incidents of violence reported.
"It's very vocal," Kobak said. "But they are complying with our orders."
Also, reports of a substitute bringing a gun were false. Kobak said a resident went to the police station to turn in an old, unwanted handgun Sunday morning.
"It had nothing to do with the strike," he said. "It was just bad timing."
The SEA and school district failed to reach an agreement after an eight-hour bargaining session on Saturday.
The school district posted both sides' proposals on its website Saturday evening.
Krupinski said the district's proposal, which seeks to convert a 9.3 percent pension pickup into salary, raise teacher contributions to health insurance 5 percent and eliminate yearly step increases, "reflects the economic realities."
"A district is mandated to operate with a balanced budget," he said.
Linscott, who said the School Board failed to negotiate in good faith during Saturday's session by leaving the bargaining table while a proposal was being drafted, said making the proposals public is illegal and the SEA will likely file a complaint.
tom m
3:21 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I think I speak for most parents when I say ....after the display shown By the actual strongsville teachers .... any substitute brought in by the schools monday .... is a step in the right direction
Strongville Resident
3:25 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Tom I agree with you
What About Our Kids?
3:41 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I agree. How utterly embarassing.
Tina
3:44 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I think it is wrong to judge any group, replacements or teachers, without more details. I would be upset if someone was trying to stop my right to strike. I do think remarks on both sides are uncalled for. I agree that these stories make both sides look bad. It is like watching an ugly divorce. Both sides need to sit down until an agreement is reached. I'd like to hear more about what the federal mediator is doing to bring this to a close. I don't begrude these teachers their salarys or benefits. If it keeps well qualified teachers and high school ratings I am more than will to be generous. An excellent rating keeps my property value high. Our Cleveland property value is dropping like a stone. Factory works have given back, police have given back, firemen have given back, teachers have given back, postal workers have given back...at what point do we say enough? Let them keep what they have now and move forward. This isn't helping anybody.
Jean Williams
3:54 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I also agree
My children will be at school Monday to learn from over-qualified replacement teachers, instead of the animals that had been teaching them all this year
golf77
4:19 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Tina,
excellent schools is only part of the formula for keeping your property values up, it is not one of the underlying factors though, as was prevelent the past few years with the economy. Property values in Strongsville are starting to near 2003 and 2004 levels and will continue only if the economy grows and the government makes changes to the housing sector. Excellent schools are not part of that equation!!! So please, I wish everyone would stop using "our" property values for saying we should continue to pass levys and pay higher taxes for services, including the schools. Just go online and research, you will see that higher property taxes will eventually erode property values, especially as people sell their homes and leave the city. So again, don't use property values as a reason, won't work with an "educated" taxpayer!!!!
Kim L
4:19 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
tom m 100% in agreement with you and my child will also be on the bus monday
As to you tina !!!! who will pay for all of the teachers demands ??? you ???
John
4:34 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Agree completely. Behavior that would get our kids suspended or expelled should not be tolerated from the teachers.
jim mclaughlin
5:06 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
As I read all of these comments , for either side , I have to wonder, why would you have voted to build a new multi million dollar middle school, ( which is a horrible plan, but its done) for a system that you are clearly, beyond unhappy with . From what I can see, this is a community clearly unable to determine any possible positive and intelligent plan to improve itself and prepare its youth to be able to compete, not only globally but on a local basis as well. If you think that continuing on in this manor will improve the community, look around at the communities that are flourishing around you, they support their children and their systems , I have no doubt that their must be several systemic problems in this city, but this will not bring a winning and dominant position to the city and its legacy. The community needs its school system and the school system needs its teachers and most of all the children deserve better than what their community has turned in to. Teachers , need to be accountable as do the administrators who have gotten things to this point. Most importantly the community needs to teach its youth the proper way to fix a problem and to quote Jethro, "this Ain't it!" Strongsville is where I live but I surely am not proud of it!
Victoria
7:36 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
REALLY tom m????? If you think bringing in black substitute teachers who come in for a JOB INTERVIEW in saggy pants that show their butts and hats with a weed leaf displayed on them is a step in the right direction then you must not care too much about your children. The board states that these substitutes are going to have background checks? Please pull your head out of your ass. It is almost impossible to have all the drug testing, fingerprints and background checks done over night. But they are a step in the right direction right????????
sville senior
8:25 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I also agree and will be walking my grandkids to school tomorrow past these leaches to teach them what greed looks like
Fiend
10:37 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Does it feel good to know that your taxes won't take a hit while our teachers struggle to pay their bills and feed their families? What does your kid need: a new iPhone or a quality education from those who care-- both inside and outside of the classroom? I can't speak for everyone out there, but every day I see how much work and passion my teachers put into making us not only better students, but well-rounded individuals. Over the past 4 years at Strongsville High School, I've never been just a number. However, tomorrow I will be just that to anyone that will try to take my teachers' places. Do you want your child to succeed? If yes, then pay for it. If not, keep on belittling the role of a teacher and criticize them when they get upset over it.
Fiend
11:49 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
@Victoria i hear what your saying, right on, but don't bring race into your argument. That's not what this is about.
Cory Williams
8:13 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
None of you have ever had to walk a picket line have you. What these teachers are asking for is fair.
Danny Green
8:21 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Hey Victoria, very racist statement, you must be very proud of yourself. Fiend...please review the salaries your teachers are currently being paid. I highly doubt there is one single teacher in the Strongsville district that is struggling to pay their bills. The core of the problem is, that in just about every other sector of our economy, people have given back to maintain their jobs. People have been laid-off, hours cut, benefits cut or their premiums increased. There is no other profession that I am currently aware of where the employer/taxpayers contribute entirely toward the employees retirement. A retirement that is guaranteed! We as taxpayers can no longer continue to fund this type of compensation plan, especially since (as I previously mentioned) many of us have taken cuts to our compensation just to keep our jobs.
Danny Green
8:25 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
The behavior of these teachers is entirely uncalled for. They have created a very contenious environment, and neogotiations. If you're a striking teacher reading this post...PLEASE stop and think beyond this moment, as this will be settled at some point and time and you will be back in the classroom. You will not be able to erase your actions once they've happened. Let's have some civil discourse fitting of an educated "professional".
Jim
11:41 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
They wouldn't protest scabs if they actually believed that replacement teachers can't replace them.
Olmsted Falls resident
1:34 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
I agree Tom. Mob mentality, name calling, bullying people who want to work? Unqualified? They call in subs when teachers go on medical leave, etc. So they're saying the subs aren't qualified then either? These are the people teaching your children? Glad I live in Olmsted Falls
Kathy Green
3:22 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Fire them all!
Cory Williams
8:16 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@kathy thats rather closed minded.
Laura Row
3:23 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
This Teacher in this video says "talent"....are these adults, educators showing there talent by their behavior. How are the subs "taking your jobs"? You refuse to do your job. How can you chant "Get an honest job" when it is YOUR job. It's a shame this video doesn't show the vulgar language the teachers were using or how they were physically getting in people's faces, blocking them and swearing at them. I saw it all first hand, and let me assure you no of this took TALENT!!! This will an interesting teacher conference when I'm sitting across from them and they are going to "teaching" my kids.
Cory Williams
8:18 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@laura both sides are behaving badly. the situation isnt getting resolved by the ugliness.
Kev
3:24 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Absolutely. I was attacked verbally by them today. They are no longer welcome in MY city. Immature and selfish. What a way to set an example for our kids. Using them as pawns in their game.
lyn
3:25 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Sorry, Tracy - negotiations were over -final and best offer given - final contract or none - nothing more to negotiate - no violation.
Go home and warm up.
Get rid for Monday - brrrrrrrr.
Oh, that's right - go convince those other 250 teachers who weren't there that they should vote with you tonight.
Cory Williams
8:20 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Support the teachers .... 25 cent cups of coffee at Burger King.
Terri
9:39 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Cory - if Burger King is supporting these "Educators", I will be boycotting Burger King.
And, please tell me how The Board and The Taxpayers are behaving badly - is it because we (The Taxpayers) are fed up with their (The Union & "Educators)immature, selfish, insulting behavior. And, we have the audacity to call them on it?
Cory Williams
9:49 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@Terri - Just delivered coffee to them and will continue to do so. And "Burger King" is not supporting them I am. So save what would be a non effective boycott for another time.
Tad Taderson
3:28 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Thanks for filming. I noted some of the "brave" ones turned away from the camera so as to not be caught in the act. Own your actions.
Learning that anyone can be replaced can be a tough pill to swallow.
These folks don't get...
Kids are being used as pawns for $$$. A bad example has been set.
Cory Williams
8:21 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Tad, very well said, the kids are the losers in this situation.
lyn
3:33 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Yelling
"This is our house"
Not if they walk away
And it is on TRACY and her thugs if they strike, no one else.
Quit blaming the BOE for your stupid decision to not take that gift wrapped contract you were handed.
Funny how you lowlifes clean up your act when you know the cameras were on you this time.
Cory Williams
8:22 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
gift-wrapped, a last best offer is not a gift wrapped offer, it is a threat, get the BOE back to the table.
Terri
9:50 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Hi Lyn - Funny, I thought The House was owned by The Citizens. Silly me!
What ever happened to "of, by, and for The People? I hope the "Educator" making that comment doesn't teach Social Studies, or American History!!
Myron Shibley
3:49 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I would love to hear any sympathizer with the SEA tell me how the statement below can be defended as "for the students:"
"SEA President Tracy Linscott said the members were there Sunday morning to show the replacement teachers they were not welcome and show the community that the subs cannot fill existing teachers' shoes."
So showing replacement teachers, that are literally just honest people looking for a job that has been opened, they are not welcome with foul language, intimidation, etc. is helping the situation HOW exactly? How is going after people who are applying for a job opening that YOU vacated and embarrassing yourself and the community in the process helping any single student of SCS?
Wow. If anyone other than the SEA teachers really buys into this "for the kids" garbage I truly feel sorry for you bc you honestly may have been partially lobotomized.
Cory Williams
8:22 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Agree, the behavior was reprehensible. But emotions are high.
What About Our Kids?
3:53 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Tracy Linscott doesn't seem capable of leading a horse to water, let alone a group of teachers down a path that could change their careers, and life drastically, and not for the better.
Sad Citizen
3:57 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
When did police and firemen give back, both groups got big raises three years ago when the teachers got nothing. Both got big raises just weeks ago. No one objected to those raises, but the teachers are greedy for asking for a raise.
Kim L
4:35 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
the raises offset the costs of the rise in health and pension costs and amounted to a little over 1100.00 per year increase
sville senior
8:20 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I agree with many of the other postings, this is about the teachers arrogance not the police and firefighters,
I would be proud to have my grandkids taught by our firefighters and police officers But lets see the teachers try to fill their shoes
JLynn
4:01 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
So subs applied for positions today to start tomorrow and they are suppose to have fingerprint and background checks done and ready to go by tomorrow morning? Come on. Get real.
golf77
4:11 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Sorry, which ever side you are on, the display by the teachers is unacceptable. Just driving by, the words coming out of their mouths and these are the people teaching our children. Now I am worried, even if these unruley teachers come back. I understand that you have a right to strike and that the thought of losing your job is not great, well News Flash!!! This is a public entity, funded by public dollars, "We the People" voted for this BOE and they are given a job to carry out the duties of that office whether you agree or not. Strike if you may, but show some sense of dignity, your mouths and any force(banging on people's cars) will only lead to potentially unwanted circumstances, brought on by you, the teachers!!!!
Ed W
4:16 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
It happens immedialty thru a computer system there really isnt a waiting period
Frazee's Brain
8:11 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Not true.
Strongsville Dad
4:23 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
These teachers are behaving horribly. Shame on them. I hope they realize that their behavior can only lead the pubic and the taxpayers to believe that the school board is the reasonable, responsible party.
Tad Taderson
4:25 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I drove by at 3:15 and someone yelled at my car...something like "Hey, nice Maserati!"
golf77
4:28 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
That is okay Tad, they are just jealous, because they don't have enough money to upgrade to your car!!!!
Myron Shibley
4:43 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Didn't want to get your good car dirty in the snowy OH weather huh?
Richard
7:09 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
They knew you weren't there to apply for their job!
Myron Shibley
4:44 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
The most interesting man in the world (no, not me) says... http://qkme.me/3t802t
jabace
4:45 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I hope the board can stay strong and never bring this bunch of greedy arrogant scum back to our schools. Most of these striking teachers are making over 500.00 a day for the days worked in a year. I am absolutely in disbelief that they would even consider striking. Does anyone think they are bluffing to the end, and then not strike?
Bob S
5:42 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
a substitute TEACHER HAD A MARIJUANA LEAF ON THE BACK OF HIS CAP !! WOW,
Bob S
5:43 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
look at those subs, CIncinatti Reds BASEBALL CAP to interview ?? DEAR GOD, good luck strongsville parents, maybe you should all pay your taxes, and quit living off you parents !! PRAISE THE LORD
Myron Shibley
4:53 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Tad brought up a valid point earlier as well....do these striking teachers realize when they are forced to accept the terms of the BOE (if they do so)...how much money they will have lost in both income and benefits from being on strike? Hope they are thinking about that as well. Also, remember, they have families too...and their family's lives will have to drastically change in most cases due to both loss of income and benefits. The pressure, in my opinion, is way more on the SEA teachers to accept the BOE's offer than it is for the BOE to re-negotiate new terms.
jabace
5:24 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Totally agree. I cannot believe they are striking in this crappy economy. Any job is better than no job especially the teachers incredible paying jobs. It all comes down to greed, I deserve the best, arrogant attitude.
Cory Williams
8:25 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@jabace incredible paying jobs? please.
Tina Lewis Kozarik
5:16 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
This is so embarassing; what a black eye for our city. These people should not be allowed back into the classrooms to teach our children. They're trying to scare us about the subs, but I'm more fearful of them coming back & teaching our children. Zero tolerance bullying policy in school- yet they behave like this when they don't get what they want. And the teachers who aren't on board with this- you're condoning their behavior by not standing up to them. Cross the line this week and show that this really is about the children.
Bob S
5:45 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
go to school Monday and look at the subs Tina, good luck if you have kids in the schools, wow,
Tad Taderson
6:58 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
More coded words by Bob S, poorly hiding his racism. "Look at these people"...a lot of minorities were there today, looking for work. I know, I know...you have african american friends. Save your response. You are racist.
Megan C
5:16 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Sure looks like a lot of "talent"...wouldn't want any of these people teaching my kids. Be grateful you have a job, insurance, and a pension-things that so many in this country do not have! GREED!
JIm
5:16 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Im afraid I am most concerned with their conduct... Awful. I hope the subs fill the bill... The union is broken and we can start again. I am not alone... In fact, I have spoken to no one who feels differently. You really are blowing it, teachers. You have no dignity and it will cost you!
Sarah
5:18 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
None of you understand the fact that some of the teachers at that school are absolutely phenomenal. I have had teachers who have helped me become the person I am today but all of you adults wouldn't understand that. You aren't sitting in the classroom, you aren't in that chair listening to the teacher. I am a senior at strongsville high and I can tell you that this strike is really saddening some of the seniors. My friends and I have to go to school tomorrow and see our teachers standing outside in the cold then sit through classes taught by subs who will not be able to pick up where THE REAL TEACHERS left off. My English teacher has a huge senior paper that is taking the whole quarter and you know what's its about? US. What WE want to do with our lives, what interests US. You show me a sub who will care about that project as much as he did. He cared about us, and you guys commenting on this saying how terrible they are, you don't see that. So come to SHS tomorrow, go to class with us, and tell me what you think.
Jean Williams
5:26 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Sarah then why don't you stand outside with your teachers, and while all your friends are off at college you can repeat senior year
Tad Taderson
5:35 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Sarah,
Your a student, so people will cut you some slack. Your teachers weren't fired. They chose to strike...and walk out on you. They chose to do this because they want to be paid in a way that this city can no longer afford. We can't print money, and pay money that doesn't exist. They can be back to work tomorrow....if they accept the offer of employment on the table. That's what the City can afford. Again, the ball is your teachers court.
Give the subs a chance...why don't you report back at the end of the week and let everyone know how it goes.
Tell you what...I'll GLADLY go back to High School for a day, if you do my job for me tomorrow.
Tracy Smith
6:35 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Sarah - This strike is a horrible thing for all the children in the system but no one is preventing your teacher from walking through the door tomorrow and teaching your class. He has the free will to make that decision to teach his class or walk the picket line
Cory Williams
8:29 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@sarah, well spoken.
@jean, easy to attack from behind a computer, isnt it?
@tad, what the BOE is asking for is not reasonable?
Sad Citizen
5:24 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
First, I'm an IT consultant, not a teacher, so there is no me too regarding police and fire from me. Next, the contract you posted is not the most recent one, it is the previous one. What I see in the pay scale matches up with the teachers really well. It looks like starting pay is about the same and the top end is about the same. A little higher for teachers in some case, but fireman are not required by the state to have a masters degree, or to take expensive classes to keep their job. Don't tell me they don't have summers off, fireman work one day Nd have two off. I don't object to the six straight years or raises for them. I object to citizens who don't complain about those tax dollars, but want to ridicule and belittle teachers who are asking for much less. It's the vitriol and hatred I object to.
Most of us will live our entire time in Strongsville and never need a firman. Most of us will have a family member in the school system.
Cory Williams
8:30 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@sad, here here
Sad Citizen
5:30 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
$500/day worked? Please show your work. Please tell me your are not going to be teaching math as a replacement tomorrow.
Sad Citizen
5:31 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Jean Williams, your are a mean, cruel and nasty person. Someone should wash your mind out with soap. I'm saddened to think we live in the same community and breath the same air
Cory Williams
8:30 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
I agree
Angry student
5:32 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Sarah there are maybe 3 "phenomenal" teachers at our school tops. After today's events it's safe to say majority of the kids do not support the teachers AT ALL. Unless they are brown nosing teacher pets
Heather Daniels
5:38 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
How sad that adults would treat others this way. Shame on them for using despicable words and hateful actions. You have no idea what education and experience those people who are applying for jobs have. They could be retired teachers, stay at home parents that used to be teachers, teachers that just moved to the area, or unemployed teachers. I have more education than some of those teachers and if I want to go and help those children continue to receive a good education, I will.
Tina Lewis Kozarik
7:55 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Well said, Heather! I agree!
Mark Kylemore
5:43 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Tracy Linscott references meat & potatoes. It looks like Tracy has been eating quite a bit of meat & potatoes. I would welcome the board hiring replacement teachers and fire all of these thugs.
Cory Williams
9:53 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Actions of a few are a poor reflection of the whole. These "thugs" as you call them are caring loving individuals, yes of course there are bad teachers but there are bad employees in every company.
Lori
5:45 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
IT'S TIME TO CALL IN GOVERNOR KASICH! These teachers have crossed the line. REMEMBER WHEN THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS WERE ALL FIRED.
Cory Williams
9:54 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
All caps, really?
FunFacts
5:46 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
My daughter had Tracey Linscott for a class called "Skills For Success" two years ago at Albion Middle School and she told me that she was the most absent teacher that she had all year. She also said that the class should have ben called "Skills For Failure"; based on watching Ms. Linscott's message in this video, I am proud of knowing how smart my daughter has become!!!!
Kevin Dale
5:51 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Angry student, you sound, well, angry, but not much like a student. Recognizing that one would never lie on the world wide web, it's good to know some diligent SHS student is out there polling his or her colleagues to get a firm grasp of what the majority of "the kids" think.
Lori
5:55 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Bob S. why are you knocking the subs, why don;t you have an opinion about the teachers jumping on hoods of cars and yelling unnecessary profanty at other individuals.
Amy Drlik
5:56 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I went up there to see it for myself! What a bunch of mean bullies, how can you teach our children it is wrong to do that and then act that way? It was so embarrassing to see them screaming and swearing at the substitutes like that! Shame on you teachers, I have lost so much respect for them. Loved that they called me a SCAB and I was just a mother of children in this school district wanting to see what was going on up there. All those teachers chasing the subs down, cursing at them should be FIRED!!!!! I don't want you around my kids!
Theresa
8:23 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Amy, you are so right, who would ever want their children to be in the same room as the teachers who are screaming and swearing! I have to admit to being truly shocked at their behavior. Going on strike is one thing, but their behavior is inexcusable!
Myron Shibley
6:02 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
If any of you are curious on what Tad Taderson looks like...this is the closest thing I could find...and he did tell me that many people have called him "Jack Abbott" before. http://insidetv.ew.com/2009/11/20/young-restless-peter-bergman-eric-braeden/
Bob T.
6:03 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Food for thought:
1. Why do the teachers think they are irreplaceable?
2. Why do they think nobody in a 100 mile radius can do their job?
3. Who taught their job before they got their?
4. Students...you will get over it!!! You get a new teacher every year. 8th grade to 9th grade. 2nd grade to 3rd grade. You dont have the same teacher every year.
5. Lets imagine their faces when they are all fired and the BOE figures out that the students can be taught by someone else. LOL!!!
6. North Royalton thinks they have the best teachers. Brunswick thinks they have the best teachers. So who is it? Strongsville? Teachers are commodities. For every teacher that is in the classroom there are many others who could do their job but just werent lucky enough to get that job. Plus, how can you get that job when that teacher wont leave for like 30 years? There is no upper mobility in teaching. Which means these jobs hardly ever come up for interviews. I graduated from SHS in 1993....20 years ago!!!!!. Do you know how many of my teachers are still there? Alot. How can you get a job when there are zero openings!!!!!
Pathetic! Just utterly Pathetic!!
Embarrassed Neighbor
6:13 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Yes the behavior of these teachers is absolutely unacceptable, and i dont agree with it at all, but you can't criticize their behavior if you students, parents, and teachers are saying just as nasty things on here either. I think we all need to grow up a little and realize what is actually going on around us ...
Cory Williams
8:32 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Well said.
Tad Taderson
6:18 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Bob,
Do you have an issue with African American's teaching the kids? I notice you are concerned with how these people look. A lot of minorities showed up today for work. With how much your harping on their appearance, I see where you are going. Keep your racism out of this.
Beverly
6:23 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Boohoo little AP student whose grades are overinflated & think your smug @ss knows better than the taxpaying adults that fund your joke of an AP program. It's programs & attitudes like yours that alienate so many other kids & TRY to make them feel "beneath" you. If you were truly that "advanced" you'd know to keep your mouth shut ¬ speak to issues you really have no clue(or life experience) about. Now,there's some education for you...and you're welcome!
baseballfan
7:42 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Wow. Unbelievable.
Frazee's Brain
8:13 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
You must be a very sick person.
Danny Green
8:30 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Beverly your a bitter person!
Cory Williams
8:33 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@beverly, wow such anger. Get a therapist.
Terri
10:05 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Beverly - You & I both know that many students have been indoctrinated by the School System. But, they are young and open to influence. If we can teach them with facts and kindness, perhaps they will grow up to be thoughtful and kind adults.
I understand that the situation is frustrating to ALL of us, but, please treat the children, the same way you would want someone else to treat yours.
Student
6:29 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Beverly
My mom is a teacher, so I would say I have a pretty good idea about the issue. And I don't understand why you have to degrade me for trying to challenge myself? I am trying to do something with my life. I don't need some adult who has nothing better to do with their life, other than sit at a computer and run HER mouth. And I don't need to hear about "the other kids". Those kids are the lazy ones who don't put in any effort in school and expect their mommys and daddys to make everything ok for them. These teachers have gone above and beyond for me and it's those students who become the ones complaining about the teachers. It's those kids who look for an excuse when they have nothing to show for
Frazee's Brain
8:14 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Amen.
Beverly
9:29 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Well Student,at least you confirmed for me,as I suspected, that you do feel you are superior & all the other kids are beneath you-"I don't need to hear about those "other kids". "Those kids are the lazy ones who don't put any effort in school"...blah,blah,blah-who's running her mouth now "student" ? Perhaps it's your mom the "teacher" who is writing this for you,you know,the one who deleted your original nonsensical post,because it wasn't befitting of such an "advanced student". If your mom was that great of a teacher she would have taught you to only make statements that were supported by facts,not emotions based on the lies you want to believe from the SEA. I'll give you one thing whether you are truly a student or the teacher,you are definitely, as you say "challenged" when it comes to understanding the facts of what is truly going on in this whole mess .
Beverly
8:57 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
For all of you who think you know it all-I'm not bitter,but you are damn right I'm angry. Angry at having to pay out to support those who have alot better employment situation than most these days & yet sit and complain (or should I say stand & shout profanities & act unprofessionally). For those of you students commenting on here,you just don't have the life experience & haven't had your hard earned $ taken away from you time & time again. I voted for my last levy several years ago when the "black hole" began & will NEVER again vote for another. Everyone I know is fed up with the school situation & the teachers are playing the part so well by behaving in a manner that makes it easy to not feel bad for them. I agree w/a poster on here who appealed to the teachers to think about their behavior now because most likely they will be back in the classroom & @ conferences and all the parents & students will remember is how they behaved-their character & reputations forever tarnished. I did not grow up w/social media & I feel sorry for these teachers because their behavior has been documented & shared all over the world and any future employer could easily see why they wouldn't want to hire someone who can't conduct themselves in a manner befitting the "profession". I hope the state government is watching this,with the knowledge of an illegally funded state school system & it moves Gov.Kasich to make some changes because it is definitely true that NO ONE wins in this situation
Shelly
6:31 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Wow, the above comments are so disheartening. As an adult, I went back to school to become a teacher, teaching in a neighboring district. I am there for the love of the profession, the kids. I had no idea that I would face such public scrutiny. Please remember when making your comments that all professions have bad employees. Strongsville schools has an excellent reputation for a very good reason.
Cory Williams
10:08 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Thank you Shelly.
We moved to Strongsville in 2003 because of the excellent schools. Excellent schools = levies passed, we've voted Yes for every one of them.
Elliot Ness
5:33 pm on Sunday, March 17, 2013
Your right Shelly, Most UNIONIZED professions like cops and fireman are loaded with freeloaders, and thieves of every kind. The KEY word is UNIONIZED, were you basically have to kill someone to get fired. If you're a good teacher, my hats is off to you. If your one of the ones that get the same high pay for just showing up, not challenging your students, they for the more then full time pay for 9 months a year and all the days off, of course you don't want any ACCOUNTABILITY for the skills to teach our young. Sorry you don't like public scrutiny but welcome to the real world! It seems some teachers would rather just collect their fat paychecks and tell the parents and school board how things will be. Yes, this is how many of us parents see the union and the teachers they protect from public accountability!
youdaman
6:43 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Nice post from someone on Facebook about trying to help as a sub and how she was treated by a classless group of teachers. Unfortunately these teachers are embarrassing themselves and giving a bad name to many fantastic teachers in this system. Have some class you clowns - if you want to strike....go ahead...do it with some "class"...no pun intended
"Just had the most horrible experience registering to be a sub at Strongsville. I can't put into words how these EDUCATORS behaved in front of the police station. Blocking the entrance, screaming in my face, calling me a bitch, pounding on the doors of the building, going on and on...every other word was mother f*cker, dumb piece of shit-I swear I was walking thru death row. Really it made me sob-I'm embarrassed that these are the people that are teaching my children. We had to have police escorts to leave the building, is this beyond crazy. Honestly, I am afraid to send my kids to school tomorrow. I really can't believe it's ever ok to act like that. I walked out behind children and they were grabbing at them and call their mother a dumb ass. I hope they have footage of this for the news, because I will damned if my kids are in the presences of these ANIMALS."
FunFacts
6:59 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Maybe everyone should go up to the Holiday Inn right now and interrupt their meeting. They are there voting right now. You can catch it live on streaming video by Channel 5.
What About Our Kids ??
7:44 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Dave: My thoughts exactly. Whoever the gentleman was (as shown on Ch. 5) that went and let the teachers know they're an embrassment to the community should be commended.
Kev
8:20 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
@WhatAboutOurKids ??
Thats was me on the news in the blue jacket. I was passing by and they were screaming at everyone. I stopped to help some of the applicants get in and I has harrassed. It was 10 times worse than what you saw or read. They were out of control and in everyones face. They invited me to "come get the true facts" so I did. I confronted them on camera and they had no explaination. They turned their backs and scream "excellence because of us" ignorance and childish actions. I am fuming and embassed for all of us
Kev
8:23 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
@Dave. I also said the same thing about going up there. But then I realized we dont want o play their game and stoop that low. They do deserve it though.
I am horrified to see adults act like this. Chase the subs away. Scream in their ears and faces. I interviewed with every news station there. They followed me and said no other resident would stop. Everyone is scared of them and retaliation. I had enough. We dont want them. They are selfish and are using scare tactics. They are using OUR children as PAWNS in their crazy insane game of GREED
Tad Taderson
7:02 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I just tried to stream, but it didn't work. On a separate note, a cockfighting ring busted in Cleveland. Haven't seen a good cock fight since my last trip to Cuba. My money is on little Jerry.
lyn
7:36 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Tad-
Try the smaller photo above.
lyn
7:38 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
For this video.
Richard
7:43 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Just curious, they were supposed to take the strike vote at 5. Any news?
lyn
7:50 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Did I read the contract for the police right?
The most the could make in 2012 was $67,000?
That's for 12 months
And the the most for the teachers was $81,000 - for 8.5 months.
My only comment is, one is overpaid compared to the other, as I think the police should be paid more than the teacher.
lyn
7:57 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Sad Cit-
Have you seen the 2 postings by other people?
One from Linda and the other from Holly, a Berea teacher-
You do NOT need a masters degree any more - since 2010.
They just have to get only 6 credit hours every 5 years to maintain their license.
Sad Citizen
8:08 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Police get overtime, teachers do not.
Jill
8:10 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
The trash that comes out of students mouths. As far as the girl that is in AP CLASSES how dare you say all other students are lazy. In this economy you need to suck it up and give up somethings like everone else. DON't like it then I hope the BOE FIRES ALL OF YOU THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR KIDS. YOUR BEHAVIOR IS DOWN RIGHT SAD. I WATCHED THE BOARD MEETING AND THE TEACHERS GET THERE STUDENTS TO MOUTH OFF.
Dutch
8:12 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Woow..
The hatred and ignorance is truly scary.. From both sides.
Cory Williams
8:34 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Agreed
Sad Citizen
8:23 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
To be clear, I value the police and fire departments. I just don't understand a community that doesn't extend that same value to teachers. It seems like if the fire dept can avoid the will of the people and build a palace of an HQ, Then get raise after raise with no one complaining, then what the teachers have asked for should be willingly given. I find the polie raise good, teacher raise bad position hypocritical.
sville senior
8:28 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
You Are A sad Citizen
I agree with many of the other postings, this is about the teachers arrogance not the police and firefighters,
I would be proud to have my grandkids taught by our firefighters and police officers, and I think they would be great teachers and roll models
But lets see the teachers try to fill their shoes
Sad Citizen
8:27 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
T Jeferson how about being a stand up person and tell us what you do and what your salary is do we can judge you.
tom m
8:31 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
STRONGSVILLE TEACHERS NOW ON STRIKE
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/oh_cuyahoga/strongsville-teachers-turn-down-deal-vote-to-strike
sville senior
8:35 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
they will regret this decision for the rest of their lives
Nick Molnar
8:35 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I guess educated quality teachers aren't what you want. You people are moronic.
sville senior
8:37 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
quality teaching begins tomorrow
tom m
8:39 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Nick was the quality teaching you speak of ..............on display this afternoon at city hall
Cory Williams
10:13 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@nick I agree with you
@sville really, subs, quality ... quit drinking the koolaid
@tom of course not, that was despicable
Sad Citizen
8:38 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Our community will regret not solving this for a long time. We have started a civil war at the core of our community.
tom m
8:42 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
civil war ????? do tell ....can you explain where all the support inside this community is that you speak of
Dutch
8:42 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
sville senior, what makes you think the subs are better than the real teachers.. No matter your position on the strike, your idea seems absurd.
sville senior
8:47 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
what they did this afternoon should earn those that were there their discharge papers, but Dutch what makes you think the substitutes will not be able to teach those willing to learn
Sad Citizen
8:50 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
It is my experiencd that negative on the Internet is not representative of reality. Negative finds its voice on the web. Positive usually does not have a need to vent.
Clearly, this is anecdotal, but among the citizens I have spoken to this the positions are either uninformed about the strike or pro-teacher by at least a 80-20 margin. Again, I'm aware the number if people I talked to are not statistically significant. Also interestingly, most people I've spoken with dint know about and have never heard of The Patch.
I think most parents want their student's normal teacher in the classroom tomorrow. It is absurd to think that the replacements will provide the same level of education. Just as it is absurd to suggest all the replacements are really axe murders.
That says, if you all would prefer I leave so that you can have your hatefest in a vacuum, that's fine.
tom m
8:58 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
well sad you should quit asking teachers their opinion and start asking the taxpayers ......that 80-20 is backwards
Dutch
8:53 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
What they did this afternoon was indeed not right, however it doesn't mean they are bad TEACHERS.
I didn't say they won't be able, I said the idea of them being better is absurd. The current teachers have made the strongsville school system an EXCELLENT rated system, those are the facts.
I don't agree with the strike, but your statement is short sighted and maybe a bit biased.
Kim L
8:56 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
well dutch since the teachers all by themselves made this a EXCELLENT rated system they should have no objections to a merit based system !!! what would a EXCELLENT rated teacher have to fear about merit
tom m
8:59 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
hahaha ................. great point kim
Karen
9:51 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Why aren't the kids being credited with the rating of EXCELLENCE? The teachers have been consistently taking 100% credit with no mention of the kids. Aren't they the ones taking the tests? Yes, the teachers work with them, but ultimately it's the kids who are awarded the rating for their scores. Am I wrong?
Jennifer DeGardeyn
8:57 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
This behavior is unacceptable and I am appalled after what I just witnessed. Bullying is a big no-no in our schools but yet our "elite" teachers are doing just that. I'm disgusted with this entire ordeal. I just moved to Strongsville last year and was looking forward to enrolling my child in the school system. I am seriously considering home schooling now.
Terry H
11:56 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Disgusted is an under statement. They are role models. What a tragedy!!!!!
Alex
9:04 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I was one of the substitutes for the Strongsville schools until I moved out of the state for a super career change. I have two Masters in Education and numerous years of experience. Judge not others unless you have walked in their shoes...As you scream at others, is that they way you want to teach your students to treat you in the classroom???
Jim
9:47 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
My wife has the same credentials - undergrad in elementary and masters in both special education and literacy. She subs for her $85/day when she can and is treated as an inferior by teachers who are less-qualified than she. She doesn't cross picket lines, but she also carries herself like the professional she is at all times.
Dutch
9:40 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
The merit-based evaluation system is not a cure-all. From everything I've read about it, the teachers have all the stakes in it and the students have none. When students have a stake in it too then I would think it would be a reliable way to evaluate the performance of the teachers/students. Think about private schools and the performance of students - the students have a stake in education because parents are paying for it. If students don't do well and don't pass, then it's the parents paying for summer school or a repeat of another year. If students don't pass the high stakes tests, should parents pay for tutoring or a repeat of a year? Anyways, the U.S. is getting further and further behind other countries because more and more funding is taken away from education, teachers are constantly bashed, schools are managed solely by test scores, and the curriculum is being narrowed instead of broadened. The U.S. pays more for the incarcerated than for students in school and 80% of those in prisons are not high school grads. My interest is in researching what other countries are doing "right" with education. First of all, they are highly investing in education, they take care of their children (ck the poverty rate of kids in the U.S.), money is divided equitably, they invest in teachers (they are highly trained and highly paid), and they focus on 21st century skills such as research, experimentation, inquiry, literary interpretation, & math models not high -stakes tests
golf77
9:44 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
What it comes down to, is nobody wins; BOE, Teachers and especially the kids. In my opinion, you can throw everything out the window and it comes down to one thing; how much funds are available from the taxpayers left(and this includes forcasted future shortfalls)?? If is not there, it is not there. It is just like a business, you have to adjust to the changing economic environoment. With any business, three things happen, cut benefits, freeze wages or layoff employees. If that doesn't work, the business closes, in this case, the state comes in and takes over the school system. Good Luck, finding a job in this economy is tough.
Oh yes, I drove by this afternoon and was appalled by comments that were being said. Fine, if you want to strike, at least show some dignity, because all you are accomplishing is receiving even less respect from the parents and taxpayers, which at this point I don't think you teachers care. Remember, respect goes both ways, if you can't show it, don't expect to receive it back in the future!!!!
Terry H
12:09 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Well said. I just can't believe what I'm seeing from the teachers. Is this what you call mentoring??? Did they not see the cameras rolling?
Strongsville Alum
11:09 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
As a new parent and as an alumnus of the Strongsville City Schools system (k-12), I hope my daughter's teachers express as much passion for their work. If you beleive public schools are just a day care, a voluntary penitentiary designed to coral your children while you're at work, then yes, any substitute would suffice. If, however, you beleive in the necessity of strong public education for the development of human capital (the bedrock of our economy and society), then such short sighted opinions will be the ruin of us all.
We get what we pay for, and we should get paid for what we give. When your children enter the workforce, will you advise them to take the lowest wage, in the poorest working conditions, and make no attempts to improve their situation? Or do you beleive they should be fairly and justly compensated for their time, talent and effort? Do you beleive they should stand up for their rights?
The state of the economy is fundamentally based on expectations. It expands if we collectively expect a prosperous year and spend accordingly. Likewise, it contracts if we expect a poor year and save accordingly. What do you expect of Strongsville City Schools, its employees, and the quality of education your children will receive?
I have great expectations of my daughter and I expect great teachers to guide her development. I expect them to be duly compensated. I expect that my fellow citizens would desire as much for themselves and their own children.
tom m
11:34 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
well lets hope that by the time your child enters school..... the superintendant has finished "taking out the trash" ......and the teachers once again put the student above the paycheck
SvilleRes
11:11 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
IT'S A BUCKEYE LEAF FOR GOSH SAKES!!! Granted, the people that designed the logo appear to have played a sick joke with it as the leaves hardly look "fat" to me, but for crying out loud, you'd think people FROM Ohio would at least know this. Out of state cops? I can cut them a bit more slack. Would somebody PLEASE post this on the SEA Facebook site under their pic of that poor man?! Union better watch themselves and their claims.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21715719/couple-pulled-over-when-buckeye-leaf-confused-for-marijuana-leaf
cassandra
11:31 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I do support the teachers, BUT I have to say-I am EXTREMELY disturbed about that text I see from my kids art teacher. If she was sending it to fellow teachers, whatever. Why does she even have students phone numbers to be texting them??? She should definitely be reprimanded for that.
Parent
11:49 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
how creepy is that? What kind of teacher would want kids anywhere near that protest? These teachers are getting pretty sick. They don't care about your children, they're nothing but pawns to them. But, hey, come meet me off school property?
SvilleRes
11:45 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
If it continues, you could contact the police about pressing criminal charges for stalking or harrassment. These teachers need to realize, the union or any contract cannot protect them in that situation, and then they are looking at the possibility of a criminal record. In fairness to the teacher, you can always respond to the text telling her not to make further contact or else you feel you will have to go to the police for harrassment/stalking, as you do not want him/her to contact you or your child.
Terry H
11:58 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I can't believe my eyes! I'm embarrassed to live in Strongsville knowing my children are being taught by this group. They are role models for my children, what a joke! I've lost all respect.
Tired Parent
1:39 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Sad but they show their true colors. Teachers have been using my kids as leverage, now they've lost the respect of those they claim to care about. What is even worse, I see the face of a teacher nearing retirement who chose to show feature films like transformers, Forest Gump and Spiderman instead of teaching business until a parent complained. All for the kids. Right, got it. Teachers have blamed parents forever for not being involved enough. Guess what, I think it's time for parents to get really involved and demand that the minority of those who frankly need to find alternate careers do just that. Then, I will support the quality majority. SEA is the last union to outright accept medicre performers and slackers. Becoming a teacher at 22 does not earn you the right to be a teacher for life.
youdaman
2:24 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
2011 LINSCOTT TRACY LYNN Teacher Strongsville City Albion Middle School $80,869.00 184
This lady is a clown. If I was the lunch ladies I would picket outside her house and jump on her car hood.
Sarah
7:53 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
I'm sitting in my first period class right now with forty plus kids. There isn't enough chairs. There has been no teacher or sub in my room for over a half an hour. A principal has been in and out maybe twice. But the subs are qualified and can teach us right ? Even though I have yet to even see a sub in my class.
Jim
9:49 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
There aren't enough chairs. Can they teach us correctly?
Seems that they couldn't do much worse.
Sarah
7:56 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
I commented earlier and I was told that I wouldn't go to college and that I should try working someone else's job? I go to strongsville plus I'm in a medical academy for nursing plus I'm already testing for college. I have a five day a week job. And for the adults on here talking like little kids , why aren't you in class with me ? You spun like you belong in high school. Oh and still no teacher in here just a little FYI
John Strong
8:43 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Suck it up!!!!!!!!!
Laura
8:06 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Please someone take photos and videotape any disrespectful actions of union members, be sure to ask for names and post. Let's hold them accountable for their actions and comments. These are the folks who are supposed to be role models for our kids and parents should know who exactly is cursing, jumping on cars, etc.
Cory Williams
8:37 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
@laura, if you are so concerned why dont you do it?
SvilleRes
8:16 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Sarah, it's first period on the first day. Nobody expected a teacher to be in your room teaching you right away. There will be some hiccups of course, as with any change. This is a life lesson in adapting and overcoming, perseverence. Trust me, you will be fine. My teachers went on strike when I was a child and it had zero effexr on me. Of course, props to them, becausw they acted far more professionally throughout. Turn lemons into lemonade, honey, and make the most of the time. What you make of your experience is up to you and only you, not anyone else. You can chopse to gripe and complaon or you can rally your peers and choose to adapt and overcome and make the most of it in a positive way. You choose your path!
John Strong
8:20 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Bring back Ronald Regan and break the Union.
Fire them all and rehire new treachers and a comparable (working man) rate with benefits.
Strongsville will be better off.
Unions are th problem.
Jennifer DeGardeyn
8:24 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
I agree.
kjdw
8:22 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
I am so glad I was able to send my children to private schools. The thought of them being mentored by these thugs is repugnant.
Mancuso
8:52 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
How embarrassing! Our children would be in trouble if they acted like that in school. Are these the same people we trust to teach our children? What a shame!
Natalie
9:12 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
What kind of example are you showing are kids by acting like bullies ?
I say fire any bully (teacher) harassing any sub !!
Roland
9:36 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
What I see happening here only fortifies the reason unions are failing. The teachers are not concerned about teaching our children but only concerned about what they can squeeze from us taxpayers. Students and their parents will not forget. You need to rethink what you are doing.
SvilleRes
9:40 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Although I have no knowledge about the Art teacher or whether she sent a text, it is a fireable offense for many reasons for any teacher to do so in my opinion. As you point out, it was an inappropriate environment for ELEMENTARY school children. I recently saw Zero Dark Thirty. It was Rated R for Adult Language. Rated R means not admitted under 17 WITHOUT A PARENT. The language involved was the "F" word. At least some of those teachers were reportedly using the "F" word at that mob scene, shouting it at the sub applicants.
Also, in any other context surely it would be immediate disciplinary action if a teacher is texting a student without parental approval or knowledge, especially an elementary student. In the day and age of sex offenders, I would assume the school district would have zero tolerance for any such behavior, even if simply from a potential liability standpoint. Let us not forget babygate.
Sneakily texting a student without parental involvement is a violation of the teacher-student relationship in my opinon. Any communication outside of school needs to go through the parent.
Laura
11:01 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Hey Cory, I accidently deleted my reply to you so in case it did not go through, my two young kids are in the beginning stages of their school years. As I dropped one off, I made sure to voice my opinion to please be respectful. I was told to not believe everything you hear, and the cursing at subs, jumping on cars are lies. Really now?
lyn
4:54 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
Are teachers exempt from the anti-bullying policy?
Or is their harassment, intimidation, and bullying acceptable because they are teachers, but the students should not follow the example that the teachers have set.
This is from the Districts website -
Regarding :
POLICY 5517.01
BULLYING AND OTHER FORMS OF AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR
"At least semi-annually, the Superintendent shall provide to the President of the Board a written summary of all reported incidents and post the summary on the District web site (if one exists).
The list shall be limited to the number of verified acts of harassment, intimidation, and/or bullying,whether in the classroom, on school property, to and from school, or at
school-sponsored events. Allegations of criminal misconduct and suspected child abuse will be reported to the appropriate law enforcement agency and/or to Child Protective Services in accordance with statute. District personnel shall cooperate with investigations by such agencies."
Looks like the teachers should know this type of activity is not tolerated.
Geena
9:39 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
I agree Lyn! This is absolutely ridiculous. This bullying of subs should not be tolerated. How can these Strongsville teachers go back to the classroom and be effective after all this? Their students have seen and heard how they've behaved...like irrational imbeciles. Do as I say, not as I do? They have lost so much respect, from students and parents alike. And no, teachers, they are not your jobs anymore. You CHOSE to walk out on your job. You want it back? You care about the kids? Then get your ass back to class and be thankful you have a good job! ANY job for that matter! Hey, I work for the government. Ever hear of a furlough? I am on the verge of being FORCED to take one day off per pay period, maybe two, with NO pay, through September! FORCED! And you know what? I have yet to complain. EVERYONE is being asked to tighten their belts. Why should the Strongsville teachers be any different? So while I'm being forced to readjust my budget to make ends meet, I'm supposed to happily hand over more taxes so that you get bonuses for perfect attendance? WHAT? Uh, being at work is your job!~ Why should you get a bonus for that? (Oh, gosh, don't get me started.) And guess what teachers? Your legs are not chained to any chair. You are welcome to quit and go find a job in another school district that will treat you better. No one is forcing you to stay in a job with such horrible pay and benefits. Go. Please.
Myron Shibley
9:51 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
Have any of you been to the SEA Facebook page? Talk about RACISTS? It's unreal. I felt terrible for these people that they are putting under a microscope for simply coming to a job interview and not being "white." I love that they are supposed to be teaching children to be tolerant of others and never judge a book by its cover....but you go to the SEA FB page, and 90+% of the pictures of the "scabs" they are attempting to ridicule are minorities. How do they know these people's education levels and competency by simply looking at their skin color? I thought they were the role models that were teaching children to treat everyone as equals? And most of these folks are just normal, average looking individuals.
Look, I saw the videos of the striking teachers. I don't remember anyone resembling brad pitt, even if he were stricken with a flesh eating bacteria. Now that I see how nasty these teachers really are, posting average folks pictures on their page in attempt to get others to ridicule them based on their race and appearance, I feel just fine about calling out the SEA's morbidly obese teacher population for what it is...a collection of out of shape swine that looked like they escaped from the barnyard and broke into the salvation army.
I guess we should thank them for taking the photos, now admin doesn't have to do it when they send pics of the kids NEW TEACHERS home to their parents.
Carmen
10:28 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
It good to see a changing of the guard for Strongsville School Community..........The School system belongs to the community not to the teachers they have the privlidge to work in the system it is not the other way around......(.Quote This Is Our House Scabs) That House Belongs To Strongsville.....Keep Moving Forward Watch how it will change things.........
Danny Green
8:31 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
A quick poll...
How many of you that voted against SB 5 wish you didn't?
Elliot Ness
4:23 pm on Saturday, March 16, 2013
All the rights the unions won...a long time ago are in place..........now its all about pure GREED! All Americans that work pay towards their health care, teachers feel they shouldn't have to! You feel fine having the taxpayers pay for your health care and bloated wages for part time work! When it comes to MONEY it reduces supposedly intelligent people to nothing but pure GREED. GREEDY little pigs. Oh, but its for the children! You GREEDY little pigs need to pay 1/2 of your health care and stop getting paid just for showing up. You need to be evaluated for your teaching skills and let go if you can't cut it. After all its for THE CHILDREN! GREEDY LITTLE PIGS...OINK OINK
Jennifer DeGardeyn
6:44 pm on Saturday, March 16, 2013
No kidding! Non union folks have to pay health care! It's not unheard of or even frowned against to ask for more money or benefits from an employer, but if the institution you're seeking it from doesn't have it to give then you have to continue working or seek employment elsewhere. Our family moved from Cleveland to Strongsville so our kids could go to a better school; if we have to pay any more taxes, we'll have to move back to Cleveland! I did a salary search of my child's Cleveland teachers versus her Strongsville teachers; they make DOUBLE or more in the suburbs! It urks me to no end- the audacity of these teachers. They're holding our kids "hostage" and using the union as leverage.