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Strongsville Teachers Vote to Strike

Work stoppage starts at midnight

By Debbie Palmer
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March 3, 2013

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More than 100 Strongsville Education Association members hassle substitutes applying for teaching jobs during the looming strike Marcy 3, 2013.

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UPDATED 10 P.M.

The Strongsville Education Association has voted to go on strike at 12:01 a.m. March 4.

If there was any doubt the union would vote to go ahead with a threatened strike, that was all but erased Sunday morning as more than 100 teachers gathered outside the Strongsville police station Sunday morning to taunt substitutes going in to apply for jobs.

Superintendent John Krupinski said in a statement he is disappointed teachers have chosen to strike

"We believe we have done everything we could to avoid a teachers’ strike. It is the Strongsville Education Association’s (SEA) decision to go on strike. We will continue to negotiate in good faith during the strike. We have posted both the BOE and SEA proposed agreements online at www.strongnet.org/negotiationnews. The community will find the BOE agreement to be fair to our teachers and affordable to our district," Krupinski said.

The SEA, which represents 383 teachers, guidance counselors and psychologists, met at 5 p.m. at the Holiday Inn in Strongsville to take a strike vote.

In a statement released afterward, the SEA said that while teachers were ready to offer concessions during a negotiating session Saturday, the School Board abruptly ended the talks by presenting a last best offer.

“We have always been willing to negotiate and to make concessions to reach the fair and equitable contract that our members deserve; however, the Board has shown a callous disregard for its teachers, its students, and its community by refusing to negotiate any longer and attempting to impose a contract that will ultimately hurt our kids,” Christine Canning, SEA spokeswoman, said.

The eight-hour negotiating session on Saturday failed to bring the two sides to an agreement. Teachers have been working without a contract since July.

"While we had hoped it would not be necessary to leave our classrooms, the reckless and irrational actions of the Board have left us with no choice to strike for our very survival,” Canning said in the statement.

Buses are expected to run their regular routes on Monday, and school will be held during normal hours.

Police Chief James Kobak said he will station one officer at each school this week as added security.

Strongsville police and private, unarmed security officers are expected to also monitor school driveways so picketing teachers don't block buses, parents and substitutes from entering.

Extracurricular activities and sports will be suspended for the first week of the strike, and maybe longer.

And elective classes like art and music will not be taught at first, with substitutes focusing on what School Board President David Frazee called "meat and potatoes" courses like English, math and social studies.

Work done by students during the strike will count toward their graduation requirements, although teachers said Saturday that when they return, they will not honor grades given by the classroom replacements.

The school district has posted a Question and Answer page on its website to address some of the most common concerns.

The district has also posted both the School Board's proposal to teachers and the SEA's proposal.

There were a number of sticking points, but the biggest financial difference is that the School Board sought to eliminate annual step increases in teachers' pay, while the SEA wanted to not only keep the steps, but to also erase the effects of a freeze two years ago by allowing teachers to jump two steps.

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Kim L

8:49 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

the work stoppage started in the middle of last week
teachers please stay on strike!!!
your services are no longer needed or wanted

arg1

9:23 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I agree with kwickki, Kim L. speak for yourself! Strongsville has some fantastic teachers that are VERY MUCH needed.

skipoppa1

11:37 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I am pretty sure the kids will disagree with you.

kwickki

8:59 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

speak 4 yourself Kim. I know a lot of people who support our teachers 100%!!!!

GS MOM

9:13 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

speak for yourself kwickki, you'll be enjoying an unpaid leave. I haven't spoken to one parent that supports the teachers.

Rich

9:18 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Kwickki ....not me. I do not support them at all and quite honestly , i have lost a ton respect for the whole group . Unprofessional is an huge understatement .

Strongville Resident

9:33 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I have many many strongsville friends on facebook,and have yet to find anyone not related to a teacher, that is even slightly on the teachers side

JIm

9:00 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Bye

Sad Citizen

9:03 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Shame on the police for supporting management against their union brothers and sisters.

EA

7:18 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

They are here to protect the community against violent behavior and since the teachers are acting so immature we deserve to be protected. Don't worry though the police or fire fighters won't send there kids to school if they live in strongsville, if they do then the UNION THUGS will make them pay the price.

Mustafa Muhammad

9:08 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I would also like to inform you. Being parents presumably. That teachers have been tweeting, and text messaging students, as myself, pictures and messages of "scabs". Please, if you are a parent ask your son/daughter. These disays are completely unprofessional and should be reported to the board

GS MOM

9:10 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I hope they all enjoy a long unpaid PERMANENT VACATION.

jabace

9:11 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Bye Bye teachers. You'll be sorry when you find out it's permanent. This has been a long time coming for us taxpayers to quit paying your huge salaries fr 8 months of work and amazing benefits and pensions. Join the rest of America and take a pay cut!

Lori

9:21 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

This is not about a pay cut. The teachers came to the table with concessions, the board came with one objective, to force a contract. All these posts come with $$ signs and no notice of what were the real sticking points in the negotiations. The board had a responsibilty too. Their resonsibility was to negotiate and compromise in good faith. With a school district all tapped out, the board has certainly come up with the money to pay for Pebbles Waggoner law firm, PR firm and Huffmasters Security, In my opinion it took two sides to get to this. The Board shares in the blame.
And to all of you subs, which side of the picket line would you be on if you were full time teachers in a Public School District.

Tad Taderson

9:45 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Lori,

I'll answer your question with a question: If you were one of the subs, out of work, and had a family to support...what would you do? Would your loyalty lie with your family or with your Union?

The bad news for the SEA is we've all seen the proposals now. We've also watched the behavior displayed in public today. In the court of public opinion...the SEA has lost.

Lori

9:54 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Tad Taderson
If I were a teacher, I would not cross the picket line. Under any circumstances.

Tracy Smith

9:56 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Lori - What concessions?? More days off, more planning time thus requiring the hiring of more teachers? Getting extra money for teaching more than 25 students in a class (which sounds like a payroll nightmare in managing and additional cost to manage). Granted they offered to pay more for benefits which I applaud but please detail the concessions for me

Tad Taderson

10:01 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

"Under any circumstance". Perfectly stated...even if your union leadership led you in the wrong direction, or asked you to protest in someone's front yard at night, or harrass out of work people in a threatening manner, or if you had a family to support and that sub job was an opportunity to help your family....nope, blind loyalty to the union.

Congrats...you are a sheep.

Myron Shibley

10:38 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Lori - you are a drone. In your mind you are some "loyal union-yes" soldier...but in the minds of 98% of the public, you are a weak-minded individual who goes with the herd no matter what. You literally are the person who would jump off the bridge if your union boss told you to. By the way, you're not in the military, you're in a freaking union. So saying "no" to something you don't believe in isn't "breaking ranks." It's thinking as an individual, not a moronic sheep.

Myron Shibley

11:10 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Lori - would you consider a single mom, who happens to be a SEA teacher, a "sell-out" if she has to cross the line to go into work because she can't make her rent payment or her kids can't go to doctor bc she can't make insurance payment? Do you think if I am that mom I would give a rat's @ss what you or anyone else thinks of what I'm doing? My family comes first, not a collection of satin-jacket wearing pigs huddled around a flaming barrel stuffing donuts down there face and texting kids to come watch them yell outside a building. How long do you think this "I'll never cross" mindset will last w people in situations like I described? It's easy to think no one will cross now...it hasn't even been 6 hours. Just wait til the money stops flowing in and people have to make payments. We'll see if your "heaven's gate" follower mindset is kept amongst the rest of the SEA teachers.

tom m

11:25 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

tad a strongsville teacher cannot cross a picket line .... the union can impose fines equal to the crossers pay, and there is no way around this rule ....so the quiet teachers on the strike line doing their "shift" will be those who are stuck in this

Strongsville Resident

10:36 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Lori, Would you cross the picket line if your children had no food to eat or clothes to wear? I know of children who come to school without shoes or coats in the winter. If that happened to my kids I would do whatever it takes. The least of which would be crossing a picket line of people I don't know or have any connection to.

T Jefferson

9:12 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Chris Christie: “They Said It Was Impossible…To Take On The Public Sector Unions And To Reform A Pension And Health Benefit System That Was Headed To Bankruptcy…We Did It.” Chris Christie: “They said it was impossible to touch the third rail of politics. To take on the public sector unions and to reform a pension and health benefit system that was headed to bankruptcy. With bipartisan leadership we saved taxpayers $132 billion over 30 years and saved retirees their pension. We did it.”

-Chris Christie, Keynote Speech to 2012 Republican Convention, Aug 28, 2012

Lori

11:11 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Myron Shibley
If I am not mistaken this is a public forum, and this is America where everyone is entitled to their opinions. Because I would not cross a picket line, I am a "drone". I don't BELONG to a Union. You are anti union, I however feel there is a place for Unions in the workforce. I grew up in Tremont where every dad worked in the steel mills. They belonged to the Union and for good reason.
Both sides of the table, the BOE and the SEA share in the blame for this empasse.

Myron Shibley

11:16 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Lori- Cool story bro. http://qkme.me/3t86ha

EA

7:21 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

First step was SB5 but we will win this one.

Tad Taderson

9:13 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Shame on the police? You are an absolute moron. Allow an angry mob to do whatever they want to people who are looking for work (you know, they have families too). The police serve the public, and their job is to enforce laws. If a sub was assaulted because no police were there, I guess you wouldn't have had a problem with it.

Under the other subject, you suggested that you might leave. Can I please ask that you do.

Lori

10:21 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Tad Taderson
You asked a question, I answered it. A Union is called a UNION for a reason. No need to call people names is there? Didn't you find fault with the teachers for doing the same thing?

Lori

10:34 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Tad Taderson
You asked me if I would CROSS a picket line. You asked a question, I anwered it. I would not cross a picket line. You then went farther in your comment by describing a scene out of the Soprano's and calling me a name.
Didn't you find fault with the teachers for doing the same thing?

Tad Taderson

10:36 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Lori,

I'm not Ghandi...so, when people are vile, I am happy giving it right back, right away.

Tad Taderson

10:42 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

What scene that I described sounded like it was out of the Sopranos?

I called you a sheep...indeed, I did. And when you say "under any circumstances" you openly admit that outside factors WOULD NEVER influence your decision. That makes you less of an individual, and more of a sheep/mindless follower.

Lori

10:57 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Tad Taderson
"harrass in a threatening manner", describes a Soprano scene to me. And what "vile" comment did I direct to you? I have an opinion, you have an opinion.
I don't belong to a Union, I'm not a teacher. But I have a right to express my thoughts just as you do.

Lori

12:17 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Myron Shibley
If a single mother crosses the picket line, that's her choice isn't it?
I would not cross a picket line.
Your pictures are sophmoron. Just sayin

jabace

9:14 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

ARROGANT TEACHERS AT THEIR BEST. This is what we pay for with our tax money. Do it for the students teachers! That's what you tell us everytime there is a levey to vote for.

Karen

9:18 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Fire those who have chosen to participate in this "display". I would not want my child to go back into the classroom with these people after what I have seen and heard. The schools were a reason we moved here. Now I am greatly disappointed and regret the decision. This community needs a serious dose of reality. People/teachers are out of touch. Greed is a sickness...

arg1

9:27 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Glad to hear you'll be moving soon Karen. We don't need ignorant people in this town, according to your post.

timg

9:20 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Right - It is much more human to have the 'union brothers and sisters' stay back so the kids and parents can get harassed as they go to school. When did doing the right (human) thing fall victim to union mentality?

jabace

9:25 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Did you hear about the union that started manufacturing guns for a living? The only problem was they did not work and you could not fire them. LOL.

GS MOM

9:28 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Bob S was part of that.

jabace

9:40 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

But I have a PHD your suppose to give me what I want! LOL. This is awesome. You want some cheese with that wine. Do you need a box of Kleenex?

tom m

9:41 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

posted earlier .....great point
Bob T.
6:03 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Food for thought:
1. Why do the teachers think they are irreplaceable?
2. Why do they think nobody in a 100 mile radius can do their job?
3. Who taught their job before they got their?
4. Students...you will get over it!!! You get a new teacher every year. 8th grade to 9th grade. 2nd grade to 3rd grade. You dont have the same teacher every year.
5. Lets imagine their faces when they are all fired and the BOE figures out that the students can be taught by someone else. LOL!!!
6. North Royalton thinks they have the best teachers. Brunswick thinks they have the best teachers. So who is it? Strongsville? Teachers are commodities. For every teacher that is in the classroom there are many others who could do their job but just werent lucky enough to get that job. Plus, how can you get that job when that teacher wont leave for like 30 years? There is no upper mobility in teaching. Which means these jobs hardly ever come up for interviews. I graduated from SHS in 1993....20 years ago!!!!!. Do you know how many of my teachers are still there? Alot. How can you get a job when there are zero openings!!!!!
Pathetic! Just utterly Pathetic!!

Myron Shibley

10:12 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Great points Bob. T.

Back from my boat trip and looks like the strike is official.

Bob S. liked to judge ppl by their appearance, so taking a page out of his book...I have to be honest, looking at the picture above, here are the only classes I think these SEA "teachers" would be eligible to instruct anyone in:

-Home Ec.
-Intro to Diabetes
-Beginners and Advanced Muscle Atrophy Instruction
-Understanding Homeless Fashion Trends
-Advanced Lying & Propaganda
-Puppeteering 201 - Learning to Use Children as Props
-Fast Food Theory
-Organized Labor Strike Tactics
-Argumentation & Debate: How to Lose Before You Even Step To the Podium
-Art of Public Humiliation
-Farm Animal Studies
-Learning to Eat from A Trough
-Obesity: A Case Study
-Physical Education: Learning To Use Your Triceps as Speedbags
-Advanced Consumption of Italian Cuisine
-Practical Arts - Starting Fires in 55 gallon Drums

Tad Taderson

10:25 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Well played Myron.

You can only 'kill em with kindness' for so long. I really don't care to be civil with folks who behaved like the SEA did today. Call me mean...I'll get over it.

I am concerned about the pavement outside of the schools. With the size of some of these folks walking back and forth all day, the wear and tear will be signifcant. Who is going to pay for road repairs and regrading?

C

9:51 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

The community needs to demand a return to the table and no one leaves until the job is done.

tom m

9:55 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

remember this no planes crashed when all the air traffic controllers went on an extended strike

FunFacts

9:51 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

My daughter had Union President Tracey Linscott for a class called "Skills For Success" two years ago at Albion Middle School and she told me that she was the most absent teacher that she had all year. She also said that the class should have ben called "Skills For Failure"; based on watching Ms. Linscott's message in this video, I am proud of knowing how smart my daughter has become!!!!

Myron Shibley

10:26 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Agree...you've raised your daughter well Dave. I do not think it was a coincidence that Ms. Linscott mentioned "meat and potatoes" during her interview. She was in close proximity to Boston Market at that time and it was probably on her to do list. Even if they reach a settlement, how do these idiots think they will just seamlessly transition back to the classroom as if nothing has ever happened at all? Do they really think that the parents who watched these videos or those who saw the notes stuffed in backpacks or witnessed their profanity, bullying first hand are just going to go "well, mr/mrs. x was just mad...they are probably a good person." Maybe...if they are an absolute moron of a parent. But for the majority of parents, they will never look at their teachers the same way again.

SEA teachers..please note...EVERY SINGLE PARENT is scouring the the videos/pictures published with this story for THEIR CHILD'S TEACHER. So if you think no one "notices" you there...think again.

Not saying anything when you know something is wrong is JUST AS BAD as doing it yourself.

C

9:53 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

C is not a teacher. The community needs to demand are turn tothe table and no one leaves until the job is done.

C

9:55 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

C is not a teacher. The community needs to demand a return to the table and no one leaves until the job is done.

C

9:58 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Kasich there? Lets lock out the voice of reason

Tad Taderson

10:05 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

C, the communities demands and needs are being met...the Board is holding firm.

Enough talk...Here is your deal. Take it or leave it. Call us, because we won't be calling you.

Community Advocate

10:07 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I have to tell you I have never been more disappointed in the large majority of our adults in this community. This includes many teachers, board members and many of the posters on here.

While I fully believe teachers need to pay more for healthcare (like the rest of us have had to), and they need to pick up some of their retirement, I also believe the board has done virtually nothing to present a modified offer. While the behavior of many of the teachers leavesa lot to be desired the comments by many on here are disgusting and of little value to the situation. I truly hope none of you with the disgusting vitriol on here will be subs in the district. TRULY showing so little intellect in a public forum shows your core. Rise above it and behave as you'd like others too.

FunFacts

10:23 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Hey Community Advocate - for all of your intellect, your last sentence had a typo; instead of the word "too", it should have been "to". Oh, and you shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition. Finally, you seem to be quite like President Obama; what exactly is your plan as you seem to indicate that you understand the issues? The problem for these teachers is they have gotten pinched by the termination of all of the sweetheart contracts that were ratified by previous BOEs over the last 30 years in the name of bringing the best and brightest teachers to Strongsville. They won't get the deal that those who came before them should have NEVER received. The tax payers have finally woken up and understand the seriousness of the situation. Perhaps the current SEA should ask for donations from the retired members of their flock or from the hundreds of "spolied brat" graduates of the last ten years, who are posting all of their statements in support of the teachers.

Tad Taderson

10:30 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

To expand on Dave's comment, which was great: let's go down the President Obama path. In this fiscal mess we are in, the teachers are the highest "cost" at this point. So, SEA supporters, please stop mentioning the Police and Fire Fighters. Those with the most, should carry the most weight, as we work to "fix" this fiscal mess we are in. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

Stop getting so mad, we're just asking you to do a little more, or "pay your fair share" if you will.

Community Advocate

10:38 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Dave, you are correct it was a typo. The plan should include an increase to state average retirement contribution, an increase to healthcare similar to the increase in cost. It should also include class size limitation of 20 students, continuing education credit and cost of living increase over 3 years. I like having some of the best and brightest teachers for my children don't you?

My comment was directed at people (see original comment) who are behaving in a manner they are criticizing or wouldn't advocate themselves. Also, Dave if your daughter had such a horrible experience with her teacher I'm sure you brought it to the attention of the principal. I guess not or you would of mentioned it.

Myron Shibley

10:46 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

We are the 99%!!!!!

Michelle Norton

10:10 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

How dare they stand like hooligans on they street and taunt the substitutes? That says it all; professionals don't act like that. Replace them all!

Terry

10:15 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

As a parent that supports the board i offered my help in Any capacity. I will sweep a floor be a hall monitor its time for us as parents to show whos house it is and whos paying the bills.

FunFacts

10:40 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Union President Tracey Linscott - SEA President Tracey Linscott (216) 328-1920.
Please feel free to pass along to any hard working job seekers who were harassed today. She is a strong anti-bullying advocate.

Buster Chops

10:46 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

What would Ronald Reagan do?
Fire them all! Get a levy passed then strike for higher wages?
They breached their contract. Every one on picket line should get the pink slip.
Adios, "We're here for the students".

Terry

10:51 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

A strong case could be made for our student athletes and why a teacher should not be able to coach. Being in a union should never interfere with kids sports.

Myron Shibley

10:52 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

We should all deliver krispy kreme to each school tomorrow morning. I promise it will result in about 5 minutes of silence outside the school until they take their feedbags off and wrap their sugar-glazed covered sausage fingers around their signs again.

Strongsville Resident

10:49 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Myron.....You are an idiot. While the teachers who are bullying people crossing the picket lines are an embarrassment to the school system YOU are an embarrassment to the Strongsville community.

Myron Shibley

11:23 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Well, you can call me what you will, but if you are going to label me as an embarrassment, please include the 8 other communities as well that I own properties or manage businesses in. I don't want them to feel left out.

SvilleRes

10:54 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

IT'S A BUCKEYE LEAF FOR GOSH SAKES!!! Granted, the people that designed the logo appear to have played a sick joke with it as the leaves hardly look "fat" to me, but for crying out loud, you'd think people FROM Ohio would at least know this. Out of state cops? I can cut them a bit more slack. Would somebody PLEASE post this on the SEA Facebook site under their pic of that poor man?! Union better watch themselves and their claims.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21715719/couple-pulled-over-when-buckeye-leaf-confused-for-marijuana-leaf

Myron Shibley

10:55 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Tad...only you would appreciate this...just popped open my Domaine Leroy Romanee-Saint-Vivant Grand Cru, Cote de Nuits...to celebrate the housecleaning of SEA trash.

SvilleRes

11:20 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Yes Myron. Deliver donuts. But, linge outside long enough to make them think they're theirs, from community support, and get them drooling then head on in to the building to deliver them to the new hires as a welcome aboard. Mid-morning, when they're good and cold and getting hungry.

Myron Shibley

12:48 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

I like the way you think

Jared

11:22 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

It's a shame the students have to be caught in the middle of this mess. It's sad that teachers would put the children's education in jeopardy with this work stoppage. I kinda hope they get replaced. Let them look elsewhere if they don't like the proposed contract. Just remember though the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Myron Shibley

11:27 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I just had a friend text me that Channel 3 news reported SEA has worked out a deal with Strongsville KFC to use their restrooms and allow teachers to come in to warm up when they are cold tomorrow and throughout strike.

I don't think any of us have to ask who arranged this. Tracy is a preferred customer KFC and I knew she had some serious weight, I just wasn't aware she could use it to influence a local business to the degree she has.

Myron Shibley

11:29 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I guess when you spend half of life saying either "extra crispy" or "original recipe," it entitles you to some bathroom benefits....huh Tracy?

tom m

11:29 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

you beat me by 1 minute

skipoppa1

11:32 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

classy comment.

Myron Shibley

11:35 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

Sorry Tom...I have many friends in many places...but you have beaten me on every other news story...so you're still up.

Skipoppa - didn't we have an online funeral for you last week when you were severely abused by everyone for your ridiculous emotional arguments w zero logic? I'm happy you are back for more. How is it going through life as an "omega male?"

tom m

11:28 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

BREAKING NEWS .......... KFC on pearl road is going to support the teachers......they will allow the teachers to come inside and use the bathroom and warm up ........ WOW

arg1

11:39 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!!! THEY ARE PEOPLE AND THANKS FOR SPREADING THE NEWS OF KFC'S COMMUNITY SUPPORT TOM. I'LL MAKE SURE TO CALL THEM AND TELL THEM THANK YOU

EA

7:32 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

I would boycott but I don't eat that fatty food.

Shelly Smith

11:29 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I am so shocked that the SEA posted racist comments under black applicants pictures on their facebook website. It is unreal. They, of course, removed their comments because other union supporters were like um that not very nice (see comment section). I hope other black union members had a chance to see what they thought of them. uneducated, criminals and thugs. definitely can't be a teacher if you are black.

SvilleRes

11:30 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

And I would say we could all counter by boycotting KFC, but I'm guessing nobody frequents it. My spouse's reaction? "There's a KFC in Strongsville?"

Myron Shibley

11:42 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

If you check out the profile of the majority of teachers in that picture in Debbie's article, THEY are the reason that KFC exists in Strongsville. It would be like a jordache turning away pony boy and the rest of the outsiders.

skipoppa1

11:30 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

I have to say that I am upset with people on ALL sides of the Strongsville Schools Issue. First the Board, for playing games with lawyers instead of negotiating in good faith. 2nd, the internet jockeys calling the teachers lazy, disgusting, money grubbing, should be fired, thugs etc etc (these teachers have done a wonderful job the past ten years with your kids!)...and 3rd, the individuals who were acting insane at city hall today. Most ARE NOT acting that way on either side, but the few make all of them look bad. Finally, the subs who already know that crossing a picket line (to take the good $) You are going to be protested.... but people are taking it too far on ALL sides. I hope cooler heads prevail and a short 'peaceful' protest is settled soon. Remember, the kids are watching. They can see the internet. They see the hateful words people write towards teachers they love, and the way adults act in public. Lets all let the process play out peacefully and professionally.

arg1

11:42 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

SKIPOPPA1 everyone should be listening to you! both sides are wrong and some individuals on the teacher's side is making them all look bad but the people on here pointing there fingers strictly at the teacher's need to read the facts and realize what the BOE is doing is wrong.

Karen

11:55 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013

skipoppa1 You say the subs are going to be protested, crossing the picket line. Okay. What about the kids? You say the kids are watching. Yes, they are. So what happens tomorrow morning when I escort my elementary school child to school tomorrow morning, and home in the afternoon, through a mass of his school faculty picketing, shouting, behaving badly... He's a little boy. It's an elementary school. They're all little children. If these children are exposed to ill behaved teachers, how will they trust/respect them for their education. I'm concerned, but praying, that there will be no issues taking him to and fro tomorrow!
To the ADULT TEACHERS picketing, PLEASE keep in mind, "These are children going to school. Do not yell, swear, harass, barricade entry." I feel so bad that the kids have to be seeing their teachers in this light.

Ed W

12:09 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

hey skipoppa1,
in response to your post , I never saw a post on this site calling the teachers disguting !
And yes the board has a laywer negotiating, pretty sure the other side does to, who do you think puts all the fancy words in the contract ? And those people acting as you call it insane, or as I call it like complete A holes where the teachers you said did a wonderful job. Did you go up there ? What a flipping joke ! Strongsville cops babysitting a bunch of full grown 3 year olds, screaming and chanting at people trying to get a job.They call themselves highly qualified professionals, Really ?

Lori

12:11 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

skipoppa1
arg1
Truer words were never spoken.

arg1

12:15 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Karen, you're the one at fault here for considering sending your child to school tomorrow and putting him in a bad situation of being scared. Are you one of the parents trying to prove a point by making your child attend babysitting classes tomorrow? The subs have nothing to teach and the kids have NO specials! Therefore, your child is going to be with that stranger for the entire day. Great life lesson to teach your son! I've already work my 4 kids up to tell them they don't have school tomorrow. I would NEVER put my kids in a position like that.

Kim L

12:20 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Why look its Lori the Brecksville super poster Come to lend a hand

Myron Shibley

12:01 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

I know many of you despise me...and I am 100% okay with that. When you have taken over as many companies as I have and have had to "clean house," you get used to to being the bad guy. Believe me, I've got enough going for me that it literally doesn't phase me at all. However, it's usually the bad guy that saves the company or is the person in charge of handing out reality pills. I know I do the latter, which hopefully results in the former.

This situation is not unlike any other poorly run corporation in which I and others were brought in to either restructure or sell off. Unsustainable pay structure, overcompensated employees who cannot be evaluated on their performance and poorly negotiated labor contracts. It's nothing new. You either take care of the systemic issues or you die on the vine. Strongsville seems to have chosen restructuring and living in reality vs. the SEA Fantasyland. Fortunately, I can watch from afar in one of my 5 vacation homes, but most of you, cannot. I hope the BOE sticks to their guns, bc if they do not, it will be soon reliving this nightmare over again soon...and it will be 2x as ugly next time.

Lori

7:41 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Kim L
Here I thought all along, you were the Brecksville super poster.

Hanna

12:04 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

As a strongsville student I find what the teachers are doing extremely unprofessional and disrespectful. They are telling us to not listen and be rude to the subs replacing them which is completely disrespectful and uncalled for especially because they are the ones abandoning us. They are telling us the subs are all criminals and sent us home with a paper on Friday telling us to call board members and ask about background checks!! I have lost all respect for my teachers.

Kim L

12:11 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Hanna and after reading your comment, I now have hope for our youth!!! thank you for posting that comment , to prove that some of you get it

Myron Shibley

12:44 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

A girl who thinks as an individual and makes rational decisions. Maybe you should teach the SEA how to start doing that as well. Thank you Hanna.

arg1

12:10 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Hanna, already you're education is being affected because you're becoming as dumb as the other complainers on this web-site. Go to bed little girl and be thankful instead of the great years of education you've already received.

Kim L

12:14 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

wow with a comment like that !!!! you are a strongsville teacher

Parent

12:17 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

How dare you talk to her like that! I'm so glad you'll be without pay this week. Your comment only shows how you don't care about our children. The only dumb complainer are you teachers who chose to strike under such poor leadership. May it be everlasting and go down in the books as an EPIC FAILURE to be learned from.

arg1

12:20 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

No I'm not a teacher, I'm a parent with children in this district and some of you on here are just as bad as those teacher's you keep bashing if not more ignorant then they are. Starting tomorrow you will find out the lies the BOE is telling the public and you will see how unprepared they are in protecting our children and the rights of the students.

Karen

12:27 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

arg1 You are not a very nice person. Showing hostility, displaying your verbal aggression when not warranted - I would certainly hope you are not a teacher. It's one thing to have been rude to me in previous posts (which I have tolerated), but how dare you speak to a student that way! Whether a teacher or a parent, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Myron Shibley

12:28 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Hey Arg1, what will you do when the world doesn't end tomorrow for kids that attend school? Will you drag the goalpost further downfield and give us all another "doomsday prophecy" to occur at a later date? Problem is, after tomorrow, hacks like you are out of business. No sane parent thinks it will be biz as usual u moron. They know it will take time. You just can't accept that parents are willing to give time to people that actually appreciate a fair wage and a job. Well get used to it...bc your buddies will be paying rent at KFC soon. BOE isn't caving on this.

mc

4:22 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Dear God! "You're" education. Really? I believe that means "YOU ARE," not "YOUR." You're teaching our youth? I hope you're not an English teacher!

golf77

5:31 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

I have been reading your comments arg1 and I think you are "B.S." The student is allowed to voice her opinion(for or against). For you to make that comment, you are just a plain idiot, teacher or parent. Get real schmuck!!!!!!

SvilleRes

12:16 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

WOW! Calling a kid dumb. A new low for the union. Awesome!

arg1

12:34 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

SvilleRes you must be one of those morons who start the rumors and sit back to see what happens. I am NOT a teacher, I am a Strongsville parent with 4 kids in this district. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UNION OR THIS STRIKE. Hanna is obviously a high school kid and being affected by all of this trash talk by the adults, when she shouldn't be listening to what ignorant people like yourself have to say. All of a sudden she hates the people she's looked up for years? That's not how a teenage kid talks without the influence of other adults. Yeah what the teacher's AND the BOE is doing is wrong but if I caught my kids talking like the, I'd tell them to stop being dumb too! As parents, you should all be ashamed for adding to the chaos going on. You should be investing your time in calling the BOE and getting them to explain how they are going to fix this.

Ed W

12:31 am on Monday, March 4, 2013

Arg1
" I've already work my 4 kids up to tell them they don't have school tomorrow". Great english skills. And your calling Hanna dumb !

William F

4:23 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013

Ed W. That's you're, not your!