Teachers' Strike News: Board Meeting Canceled; Spring Sports Resume
Strongsville teachers' strike is in its third week
The Strongsville School Board has canceled it regular monthly meeting for Thursday, March 21 due to the ongoing teachers' strike.
Board President David Frazee said it is common for school districts to cancel meetings during strikes.
"It's difficult to have a meeting when the previous ones have been so disruptive," Frazee said.
At the last three school board meetings -- all before the strike started March 4 -- teachers have shown up by the hundreds. At a Feb. 7 meeting, the teachers chanted loudly outside the door of the meeting room and outside the Administration Building.
The district filed an unfair labor practice charge against the Strongsville Education Association, which represents the 383 striking employees, after teachers reportedly disrupted a February negotiating session by chanting, then tried to block the district's negotiating team from going to their cars.
The SEA said in a news release that canceling the meeting -- after also canceling a work session March 7 -- puts the district in violation of Ohio's open meeting laws, unless another meeting is held before March 31.
The move is an effort "to insulate board members from the public backlash" over the strike, the SEA said.
Frazee said the district's lawyer is checking into whether the School Board would violate any laws by not meeting in March.
Spring Sports Return
Strongsville High School athletes started practice on Tuesday and will begin the season March 30.
Athletics and other extracurriculars have been canceled due to the strike.
Krupinski said that "although our student athletes have missed some practice time, they will have nearly two weeks to prepare for the regular season."
Baseball and softball practice was supposed to start March 4, and tennis and track practices should have begun March 11.
The district has appointed coaches and volunteers who are not part of the SEA.
“Non-SEA contracted coaches and approved volunteers are overseeing spring sports,” Krupinski said in a statement. “The necessary certifications for coaches and background checks have been completed.”
Middle school track is still on hold.
Trips May Be Off
The school district is no longer sponsoring two trips Strongsville High School students planned in March -- a Community Service trip to Azul, Honduras March 22-29 and a String and Freshman Orchestras trip to Chicago March 23-23 for a performance.
Krupinski said the trips were approved by the School Board with the understanding teachers would chaperone.
"We can't support a trip that isn't appropriately supervised," he said.
However, he said parents can still step forward and take over the trips, similar to what happened when eighth-grade trips to Washington DC were cut by the district for financial reasons in 2011.
“Families that decide to arrange their own itineraries to either of these locations should continue in keeping with guidelines for excused student absences, however Strongsville City Schools can no longer assume any responsibility and liability associated with these trips,” Krupinski said in a statement.
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Jean Williams
6:05 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
this was posted on another thread earlier the teachers are avoiding this subject
"Norma Rae" Linscott chose to run an economic strike (we're worth it signs) instead of a strike over working conditions ...........and under the rules of a economic strike, the owners of the company (superintendent) can hire all new permanent replacement teachers....... the strikers are not fired, and they retain all seniority rights, but would have to wait until a opening occurs before they can come back to fill any empty position
A unionized employees right to reinstatement after a strike ends varies based on the type of strike and the underlying reason for the strike.
Economic strikers who are striking as a result of the employers failure to reach an agreement over wages or other working conditions may be permanently replaced but cannot be terminated. Strikers who are striking as a result of an unfair labor practice cannot be permanently replaced or terminated.
At the end of a strike, unfair labor practice strikers are entitled to be reinstated to their former positions (even if that means the employer has to terminate replacement workers) as long as they have not participated in any misconduct. Economic strikers who offer to return to work after the employer has hired permanent replacement workers are not entitled to reinstatement. However, if they can't find equivalent employment elsewhere, they are entitled to be recalled as job openings become available.
Jean Williams
6:09 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
and without the strike misconduct clause that is not in the BOE final offer. these teachers are forced to never accept the BOE contract offer due to their behavior
blocking negotiation sessions cars from leaving lots
sending home non-approved
signed letters
texting minors asking them to be disruptive at school
bullying teachers at city hall
Strongville Resident
7:08 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
so does this mean that if the teachers accept the last best offer, many could be replaced because of behavior, but if they do not accept the offer, all would be replaced
The REAL Lynn Shady
6:44 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Right.
jw93
7:29 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Gee Shady, I thought you said the teachers were so well behaved at the meetings before the strike that there was no reason to cancel meetings now.
At the last three school board meetings -- all before the strike started March 4 -- teachers have shown up by the hundreds. At a Feb. 7 meeting, the teachers chanted loudly outside the door of the meeting room and outside the Administration Building.
The district filed an unfair labor practice charge against the Strongsville Education Association, which represents the 383 striking employees, after teachers reportedly disrupted a February negotiating session by chanting, then tried to block the district's negotiating team from going to their cars.
And we've seen how well-behaved some of them have been since the strike began. I assume that you would personally ensure that your more militant members didn't attend the board meeting and turn it into a circus?
jw93
8:53 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Whoops, just caught that second 'n' in your name, other Shady. Well played.
Lori
7:17 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
What about the art teacher MISS MAXWELL who took a picture from one of the boards twitter page and posted it on facebook. And then said OH IT WAS DONE IN FUN, AS an professional I am sure she is fully aware that was done in bad taste and somewhat a bullying tactic, her intent was to make fun of him. . It doesnt matter if he had it there. Wasnt your job to copy it and repost it. really want you back in my chiLds class.
Marathon Dad
7:30 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Or the teacher who texted minors and ask them to "come scream at scabs"
Or the two teachers with coaching roles who have criminal charges
Or.....
Yeah, it's time for parents to make sure we're heard that the teachers who don't belong in the district get removed from the district. Not a majority by any stretch, but the minority is keeping the good once down.
terry
7:19 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Good going board don't give these thugs a platform to spew more of there already tired propaganda. P.s. shady your a jacksss. I don't think the board is afraid of the backlash from parents as most of us parents suppot them. P.s p.s shady your a jackass
lennystrong100
11:00 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Learn to spell terry before calling people names because it makes you look like the 'jackass' you fool. Spelling things wrong is fine, but to call shady or other people on here you want to spew venom at a 'jackass', say it to those people like this: 'you're a jackass' as opposed to your foolish 'your a jackass'. Now, go use what I've just taught you as you continue spreading more hate here...
Marathon Dad
7:39 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Oh please Linscott. The board isn't protecting themselves from public backlash. They're protecting the teachers from additional public ridicule and students from watching people who at one time, mattered in their lives. You have proven time and again you can't behave yourselves. She's just itching for a big media event and will stop at nothing to make this about her. Teachers, stop being such sheep and defend yourselves already. And I don't mean this pathetic turn-out, simple minded picket line stuff. Start doing the right thing and cross the line. You've elected a Union President that managed to make the Strongsville BOD popular. Holy cow, when has that ever happened. I think she is actually a double agent working for them. No one can be this incompetent. Narcissists everywhere are erecting statues of the Linscott Deity (Insert image of those monks hitting themselves with boards in Monty Python). And John is the Night that Says.... NO!!!!
Lori
7:41 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Marathon Dad,
you said it the teachers texting minors and trying to persude them to do something not morally right (bullying complete strangers). is sure grounds for dismissal, and not even the two coaches basketball, football, who now have criminal records. And should not be able to use the clause , that went out the door when they broke the law..
terry
7:50 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
The coaches for sure Marathon Dad they are first on my list, what sorry role models to yell in the face of womem half his size and prevent parents from droping off KIDS !!! USING YOUR CAR AS A WEPON NICE REAL NICE. @##$$##@@!"$'
terry
8:09 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Once again I will say the board owes the familys that filed what clearly was a legitimate complaint about the bulling and name calling by the basketball teacher an apology, he proved exactly what they said he was.
lennystrong100
11:03 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Learn to spell terry. Thankfully you're not in the classroom teaching kids of any age.
The REAL Lynn Shady
8:25 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
I can admit when I've been wrong, and on the issue of the SEA having the community support, I've been wrong. It's clear we don't, and need to go back to the drawing board.
terry
8:28 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
I think your right that you have been wrong shady p.s. your still a jackass
lennystrong100
11:04 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Check above. Learn to spell jackass, you hate-spewing piece of trash.
The REAL Lynn Shady
8:47 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Ok, so we all can agree Tracy should lose her job as President, either now or very soon. Let's focus on what we can agree on and end this strike!
StrongDad
9:05 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
SEA needs to sign the BOE last best offer----strike over and then start interviewing for new teachers
terry
9:10 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
I agree strong, lynn?
Frank
9:14 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
I read all of your comments, but I do not say much here. This strike needs to end. Our children are the ones that are losing out. We have some real unprofessional teachers in our system and in all systems. That being said, we also have some really good ones as well. In my opinion, the Board has placed their Best and Final Offer. It is time to start the replacement process. If you would like to stay under our last best offer, then stay, otherwise we are replacing you. Period and end of story. The good ones will stay, the dead weight will see there way out. The one's that have acted like jack asses need to be dealt with.
Frank
9:19 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Life can go on without them....it already has
Richard
9:23 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
I agree, Frank. They might have had an argument after the first week when things were so 'out of control', and maybe less so after the second week. But now, as life did not end in Strongsville Schools, the SEA might want to seriously reconsider their position. The longer this goes on, the more 'normal' school life will be. The BOE and the Administration has shown it is possible to go on. How much further before Strongsville does not look back, and simply looks to the future, and who wants to be a part of it?
Frank
9:31 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
I have child at the high school. All of his classes are back to normal as of today. He is an honors student. He is doing fine. He is more in favor of at least 4 of the subs than he was of the original teachers. He is learning, they are working and are having tests and quizzes. They will all be fine. The Administration at the high school has done a wonderful job with handling all of this. We need to get rid of the lazy tenured teachers that we have in Strongsville. The good ones will stay because they need a job. We need fresh, new teachers that want to create NEW lesson plans and are happy to have a JOB!!
Tad Taderson
9:36 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Hi Folks,
Good news, I'm back!
Tad Taderson
9:48 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
And is everyone else tired of hearing about Kobe beef? Its basically salsbury steak. If its not wagyu, why get it?
Myron
10:21 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
It was good to see you tonight Tad. Definitely agree with the Kobe beef comment, as I believe it is what Encore uses in their family style meals nowadays.
When you get a chance, shoot me over the name of that wine you got with the steak. It was an excellent choice.
Frank
9:57 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Picketing outside of the board members homes is low enough, but then to take it to their workplace is totally unacceptable. I think we should make signs that state the teacher's name and salary (i.e., Tracy Linscott - $82,000, etc)(it's all public record) and carry them at the next rally.......enough of all of this...start the replacement process!
PTA Mom
8:10 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I didn't hear about this. Which board member's workplace were they picketing at?
C
9:59 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
REALLY? If everything is suddenly so peachy why am I spending the evening teaching Science and English lessons to my Straight A Honor student?
Frank
10:05 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Because YOU are a teacher and have chosen NOT to send your kid to school. Home School and get used to it....
So done with this strike
10:13 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
She has to spend time with her child and teach!
C
10:07 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Wrong Frank not a teacher and my child is going to the sitter I mean School.
So done with this strike
10:14 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Do you work??
C
10:14 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
I am teaching her the lessons she is supposed to have been taught in school. Obviously these Subs are NOT teaching a thing.
C
10:17 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Yes
Frank
10:20 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
C - I have read your comments - you ARE a teacher, the new system is working. And if you were not a teacher, how would you know what she was "supposed" to be learning in school....everything was taken, the subs are doing a good job of moving forward. I have reviewed my child's work for every class....they are fine ...remember everyone and anyone can be replaced.
C
10:25 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Not a teacher. I know what she is supposed to be learning because I talk to her every afternoon about what is going on at school. She has a test tomorrow on science which she was not taught.
StrongDad
7:43 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
If not a teacher then an OEA employee or spouse to one.
jw93
9:22 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I was a straight A honors student like your daughter. I don't recall ever needing the teacher to hold my hand before a test. They all come from the textbook for crying out loud.
If everything is as you say and you're not just on here making stuff up to make the subs look bad, tell your daughter to do what I did for every test I ever took. Open the textbook, read it, take notes, then study the notes. Seeing as how everything is so dumbed down now, even worse than when I was a student, this strategy will probably get her about a 112% on the test. Problem solved.
what is a fork?
11:11 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Can anyone tell me what those orange flyers said that the sea posted?
golf77
10:25 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
You mean those childish flyers posted by the SEA and OEA
They had a picture of the board that headed "Wanted" and below said last seen February 21, 2013 and saying why are they afraid to meet. and than listed their phone numbers. I helped the Strongsville workers tear them down. I kept a few, because I wanted to throw their trash back in their face and wanted to tell them not to dirty up our community!!! I did use the flyers though to call the board members to tell them that they had all been removed and to stay strong.
James Murphy
11:22 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
STRONGSVILLE TEACHERS
let me be the first to help you out
http://www.teachers-teachers.com/
Tad Taderson
11:24 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Myron,
It's called Ghosthorse Vineyards. Boutique winery in CA. One of my personal favorites.
Bernie Madoff
11:40 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
My "myron" account is not letting me log in my friend. Thank you. It was a wonderful cabernet and went great with the wagyu beef. Good luck with your business and that deal you're working on. Btw, how much did you love the woman who was sitting at the bar when we were waiting for the table and asked you: "excuse me sir, but did the bartender just say that your wine is really $1500 per bottle?" Too funny. I thought she was going to leave her husband for you when you said yes!
FunFacts
11:30 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Time to have a bunch of parents give Tracy a visit at her estate:
6303 Acres Drive, Independence, OH 44131
Q
11:41 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Flyers have a picture of the BOE from their own website with their telephone numbers. At the top of the flyer is says "Missing."
FunFacts
11:41 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Here's a great picture of the filthy Albion Middle School teacher Amy Mcmillan in a protest pictre from two years ago practcing for this year's protest:
http://www.thepostnewspapers.com/strongsville/local_news/article_901b6027-2ff9-5512-b598-5e9b6c17c86d.html?mode=image&photo=1
Rumor is that she vacationed at an Occupy Wall Street rally!!! She has personally nearly caused many car and bus accidents at the entrance to Albion. She should NEVER return to being around kids!!!!
Fed Up
11:56 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Agreed!
StrongDad
7:46 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I will be darn...she teaches in the same building as Tracy
FunFacts
11:51 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Just found Amy McMillan's e-mail address for those who want to tell her to get out of their way at Albion:
Amytmcmillan@gmail.com
Bernie Madoff
11:58 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
There is literally nothing lower on the totem pole than the trash that was part of these past "Occupy" movements. I'd love to see her occupying her financed mattress, complaining about the "raw deal" she got from the BOE and how the schools will fail without her. Go back to Occupy and complain with all the other losers how it's "the bank's fault" that you can't pay your college loan that YOU signed for...and how it's everyone else's fault that you are an unsuccessful slob. Now if this is the trash the SEA claims is "irreplaceable," now I KNOW they are lying.
Marathon Dad
12:19 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
McMillan is the best example of why CB doesn't work. If we had a system that rewarded excellence and not time-served she could devote the time at sit-ins to protect the tenure-welfare-state and earn more money by being a peak performer. Instead, she carries signs and protects the mediocrity cult.
Joe Fabeats
3:18 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
If the strike lasts till Friday does that mean the teachers will lose their Spring break vacation paycheck?
So 3 weeks of strike = 4 weeks lost pay/benefits? I don’t know but was curious. Stay strong BOE! Proud of you that you are setting an example for all that you should live within your financial means.
StrongDad
7:47 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
No, teachers do not get paid for spring break nor summer break nor Christmas break
Joe Fabeats
7:06 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
If the strike goes into Spring break it would be a great idea for the BOE to pay the subs (i.e. new teachers) to work during Spring break. This would be a great time for them to fine tune their lesson plans, decorate their classrooms and attend workshops on how to deal with bullies. Stay strong BOE!
Rich
7:37 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Hey C I have been teaching my son ALL year. I have no idea what if anything REAL teachers teach during the day but it can't be much. I also wonder why our kids have to have 2-3 hrs of homework every night. Is it because lazy tenured teachers can't get the job done when the kids are in class. Our kids get on the bus at 7 am every day and sometimes don't finish their school work until 9 or 10 at night. That's a 15 hour day for them and us meanwhile teachers get to work 1/2 that amount of time as they've pawned their work off on the children and their parents.
Frank
7:51 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Rich, I agree. In the long run, our kids will be better off if we replace the tendured teachers and move forward with replacements and keeping the ones that are truly in it for the kids. It will show by who stays under the Best and Final Offer!!
John Strong
7:53 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Attention Teachers:
Today is the first day of Spring..................
A balmy 28 degrees out there...
Karma sucks!
Overpaid Babysitters
lyn
8:04 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
About those orange signs - sounds like the SEA can add littering to their list of stupid things they keep doing. Maybe they should have to pay the city for the cleanup for this.
Now only 1 striker at Zellers????
Bernie Madoff
8:11 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Maybe it is the same ONE person who put together that huge success of a protest otherwise known as "Occupy Strongsville" last year. I believe it was a sole loser who was "organizing" in the Mad Cactus parking lot and was told to beat it by the cops.
How can these SEA supporters keep denying reality that the steam for this charge has all but run out? Strikers are feeling the economic effects (and will continue to do so) and there is nothing out there on the sidewalks but passionless drones who just "have to be there" so they don't get reprimanded or intimidated by the OEA. It's fun to read the desperation in their actions and to watch the time lapsed clips on the internet, as you can literally see both people and an entire organization breaking down right before your eyes.
lyn
8:19 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Yesterday when it was so cold and windy they weren't walking or holding up signs - just huddled together in a tight little huddle, by P.O. and Zellers.
On Monday, at Kinsner, there were only 2 in front of the school when I drove by in the afternoon.
You can't help laughing at them.
Tad Taderson
8:17 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I drove by Center this AM....not kidding, not a single horn, but ample thumbs down. Cross now!
PTA Mom
8:35 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Lyn - The strikers only have to be there 1 hour before school.
lyn
8:44 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Whatever happened to these teacher saying they work 60-80 hours/week, then it became 90-100 hours. Yet they are only picketing about 35 hours.
lyn
8:54 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Question -
Am I reading the recent comments correctly?
Are the teachers not only picketing at the school AND in front of the Board members personal residences - but they are NOW also picketing and gathering at the Board members own places of business - places of business that have nothing to do with Strongsville schools?
Is this really true? It is so unbelievable!!
And these are the same teachers who have been demanding respect? They won't have any from the community after all these stunts.
jw93
9:35 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Correct lyn, apparently the OEA / SEA have given up any attempts to win public support and are now just trying to harass the board into giving in. That's why they hate the board's lawyer so much, because he keeps the SEA from dividing and conquering the board.
I've heard multiple times that the OEA is in this fight because this is all about SB5 and fighting with Columbus. I hope that's true. If I recall, SB5 overwhelmingly passed the Ohio House and Senate and was signed into law. It was then overwhelmingly defeated by the public on referendum after a bunch of commercials with police and firefighters making sad faces. Can you imagine if they go back to a similar bill, just taking out police and fire, after this strike? The SEA / OEA are practically writing the campaign commercials for the governor. Does anyone think a bill banning teacher strikes (like they have done in 27 other states) would get enough referendum votes to even make the ballot this time around? If it did, any chance it would even get a quarter of the vote to overturn the bill? They could just run footage of the SEA in this strike and interview residents of Strongsville for the entire campaign for the bill.
Maybe the OEA realizes that this very well could be the last teacher strike in Ohio, and they want to squeeze out any concessions they can. They're failing miserably, but they're too delusional to know that yet.
lyn
9:46 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
I truly believe it IS bigger than Strongsville and they mistakenly thought they could start their fight here. But, why pick a city like Strongsville? Every move they make has hurt them because the community is disgusted by each attempt they have made to further the teachers agenda.
So, in the end, if they fail here - hope is lost for the rest of the state. Or, they will have to force another district into a strike to "set an example". But, when the next bill is put in place that excludes the police and fire - there will not be a defeat by the public if another issue like Issue 2 is put to a vote. Like you said, they hid behind the police and fire - you didn't see ads with the teachers fighting against Issue 2. This will be like Wisconsin. It will get ugly in Columbus and look like a bigger Strongsville scene - these teachers have shown they have little dignity. But, they will be laughed at once the state and nation sees how they are compensated and still want more. They will look like those occupy folks - and people will turn the channel when they come on the news because they have heard enough.
Kim L
9:54 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
David Linscott also works (from home) so lets picket his business address
D L Financial Llc
Office Address 6303 Acres Dr
Independence, OH 44131-4961
County
Cuyahoga
General Phone Number
(216) 328-1920
Bernie Madoff
9:09 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Some little known facts taken from a recent OEA/SEA conducted survey:
97.8% of teachers do not even attempt to sleep at all because they just don't ever stop working. It's that insane of a job.
Over 90% of teachers do not eat anything outside of school. No time. Too much work to take home.
98% of teachers do not even realize that they have children of their own, because they are working so much and "raising your child" for you that after the school day, they are in a perpetual state of hallucination due to lack of sleep and nutrients
Over 95% of teachers barricade themselves into a room or home to create lesson plans during the entire duration of summer break. Less than 2% of those teachers surveyed said they left their home or room at one point for a short break of 15 minutes or less. The rest worked straight through.
100% of teachers surveyed felt they should receive higher compensation. Of those, 100% could not voice why without using the word "deserve."
100% of teachers surveyed agreed children should be graded on their performance. Less than 1% of teachers thought it was appropriate to grade teachers on their performance.
0% of teachers surveyed agreed to do this survey after completion of school day, as they would not be compensated at time of survey (and they are too busy)
100% of teachers surveyed chose a bowl of donut glaze over a bowl of whole grain cereal
Survey question judging Tracy's performance as SEA president was not permitted.
lyn
9:13 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
You forgot this - one teacher even commented it was difficult to fit in time to go to the bathroom.
Strongsville School Mom
9:36 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
This is getting really bad. Maybe we should make signs with teachers pictures on them reading "AWOL" or "WANTED FOR CHILD ABANDONMENT". Both would be true.
Tad Taderson
10:14 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Why not start protesting/picketing in front of their homes? How about we start with that ogre with the long goatee who is out in front of Center every day pretending that he is the "intimidating" one of the group? What could this clown possibly teach?
Frank
10:17 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Yes and the signs should have their names and salary listed very largely!
StrongsvilleMother
10:22 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Has anyone else noticed the new white/green signs that say "We Support The Strongsville Teachers"? I thought is was about the kids. They are not even trying to disguise it anymore. Funny though, those signs are only showing up in the yards of teachers. Saw 4 total going through town today. They are so predictable. These are the only homes that put out Levy signs also. Will not need any of those for awhile.
Frank
10:26 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
i still think we should create signs with their names and salaries on them. Enough said....Best and Final. It is below the belt to picket at someone's place of employment...not even in this community....they disgust me. I will never vote for another levy in this city...replacement process needs to begin.
James Murphy
10:35 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
you know this is actually a good idea
everyone owns a printer
pick a 70k-80k teacher closest to your house
print up 50-100 flyers
place them on the front porch (or newspaper slot) of all their neighbors
make sure you list their address (for the dog walkers)
MLing
11:01 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Honestly, this is not a good idea to distribute personal information in this manner. Everyone also owns a computer and this information is listed on line. I think by now most people paying attention know how generously the teachers are paid in our community. If the teachers do not appreciate it, there are many recent grads who would love to take their places and build a career, hopefully without a union involved.
lyn
10:46 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Disgusting bullying behavior, taking picketing and crowd assembly from school grounds to Board members personal residences and to Board members places of employment.
C
12:20 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Once and for all to hear. I am a parent of children in the SCS. No relationship to OEA SEA anyone. If the subjects were being taught properly there would be no problem. She absolutely understands what I have gone over with her
Amazed citizen
12:22 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Lyn, are they doing anything illegal? if not, go away with your crying.
C
12:26 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
When will everyone stop picking sides and say enough is enough. Lock them in a room together and no one leaves until there is resolution. And stop the talk about not supporting operating levies. As the school system dies so does your home value, neighborhood, city. This will come to a close. Demand an end now. Demand everyone sit down and do their job. Sitting in another room thumbing your nose at others doesn't make it go away.
lyn
12:45 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
The reason people with kids will not move here is because of seeing and reading about the teachers deplorable behavior.
Go ahead and think they are entitled to what they demand and how they are acting - but the result is, no one wants these people teaching their kids, so no one with kids will move here.
Frank
12:49 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
c - there is nothing left to talk about...tell your co-workers....best and final and last offer....take it or leave it. They will eventually have to start the replacement process and unemployed teachers that would love to teach in a nice suburban safe neighborhood will replace these teachers. NO ONE is irreplaceable.
William Hendershot
12:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Nonsense on several points. The SEA wanted a strike and they got it, just like a bully picking a fight they are finding out the other kid can punch back and it hurts.
You got your strike now live with it.
Home values will increase, especially if taxes go down. Real estate purchasers look at the total monthly payment, and as taxes go down, it makes homes more desireable.
If the taxpayers could purchase educators in the free market, absent of the restrictive hiring practices of the union, school taxes would go down significantly.
The average teacher costs Strongsville about $550/day worked. In two weeks over half of them have been replaced for 1/3 of that cost, even with the thug tactics of the union. Imagine when word gets out the Strongsville is hiring teachers for long term; how far down Pearl rd will the applicant line go?
And please don't give me the "teaching certificate" BS. This was created by the unions to limit the pool of applicants. No certificate reqd in college or private schools.
Think of it, most of the material taught in Sville schools is 8th grade level or below. Any of us could teach this stuff were we properly motivated. Parents do it all the time.
C
12:49 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
And you think others outside the community aren't reading all the generalized hateful words being posted?
C
12:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Once again Frank NOT a teacher
C
12:53 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
No BS just facts. You get what you pay for.
Spinnerbait
2:13 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
C
In Most cases "Yes" you get what You pay for. In this case I dont see that. We pay 16th highest in state...Our academics are at 103 in state. How is that getting what I paid for? If there was direct corelation between what I pay and the academics then I would say make Strongsville the highest paid district in the state. But that is clearly not the case.
jw93
2:30 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Unless you're talking about a free market, it's a bogus argument anyway. Cleveland is a disaster of a public school system. When someone says anything about it, the teachers say, "Look at these kids. They come from broken homes. They have teenage mothers. They have no structure, no discipline. How can anyone be expected to teach them?" And I totally agree with them. Given those circumstances it's almost impossible to know who is a good teacher and who is a bad teacher in Cleveland. But you can't have it both ways. If socioeconomic status is the prime determinant of student success, as the teachers in Cleveland claim and I agree, then it ought to hold in Strongsville, too. So saying that our school system will go down the tubes if we don't make our teachers amongst the highest paid in the state, particularly when that bar is being set by a government monopoly and not the free market, is absurd. The main reason Strongsville is Excellent with Distinction has very little to do with teacher pay and benefits, and a whole lot to do with the fact that most Strongsville kids come from stable homes with parents who generally care about their education. And the ones who are not fortunate to come from such a home are more likely than not to be poor performers in our school system or any school system.
MLing
3:11 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
If this is true what "Spinnerbait" has shown below and our rate of pay to teachers is 16th highest in the state and our academics are rated 103rd....then put this on signs or distribute this fact to the residents of Strongsville. That should put the "nail in the coffin" for this strike!