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What Should Strongsville's New Year's Resolution Be?

If you could pick one for the city, what would you choose?

 

If you could pick a New Year's Resolution for the city of Strongsville, what would it be?

We posted the quesiton on our Facebook page today and got a few answers already, including:

"14 new lanes of traffic on Royalton Rd. to handle the influx of holiday motorists"

"Fix the traffic problems (they are only going to get worse, especially with the new Giant Eagle coming) AND for the winter months, have snowplow drivers be respectful of cleared sidewalks. So tired of digging out the bus stop."

Any other suggestions for the city? Post them in the Comments section below.

Jean Williams January 09, 2013 at 06:41 PM
Lisa i will take that as a yes
Bronco January 09, 2013 at 07:25 PM
Jean who cares, that's her right. Should we come down on you for any opinions you have on boards and other's don't agree with? This still is America and I served for people to have their rights to have opinions.
lyn January 09, 2013 at 08:15 PM
Bronco - First, thank you for your service. Second, people have a right to their opinion, but once you cross the line into encouraging city leaders to keep out the "riif raff" (we all know from reading the comments what some mean when they say this) and talk about who can and cannot shop at the mall, you are violating peoples civil rights. If people want to put the pressure on the city and others to keep out a certain group of people, then it will most certainly backfire. Doesn't anyone remember what Parma had to do because of various violations? Among other things, they were under orders from the federal government for over a decade and involved in costly litigation for over 2 decades. What happened? They were forced to bring low-income housing to Parma among other things. Watch what you say - it could backfire on you tenfold.
sarah January 09, 2013 at 08:25 PM
I would just like to say that my mom teaches at one of Strongsville's middle schools and the MAJORITY of the "riff raff" reside in Chestnut Lake's Section 8 housing. This is a verified fact. Just sayin. It makes me sick to drive down that part of our beautiful city. It needs to be fixed up. So so so so glad that Sheetz and O'Charleys is approved!!!!
lyn January 09, 2013 at 08:28 PM
Young lady, you are also an adult, but seem very sheltered if you have never even seen in movies or tv programs how people of different cultures behave and often think they may be paying a compliment. It is possible that they meant you no harm, but their lingo was offensive to you - as it might be to me. I would definitely NOT condone someone harrassing you - but if they were, I hope you contacted the authorities if this happened. If not, did you really feel threatened and scared, or did you just think "what a jerk". I find it hard to believe you or your friends were never approached by any of our white boys. If this is true, then I wonder what you would do if you saw a nice looking white guy in the food court and he complimented your looks and asked you out. Would you be just as offended?
sarah January 09, 2013 at 08:29 PM
Furthermore, the "riff raff" in our city is not one particular color.
lyn January 09, 2013 at 08:35 PM
I agree - "riff raff" comes in all colors. But unfortunately only one color has been targeted by a select few commenting on here. Its pretty sad that this kind of racial discussion is still popping up now and then. It just goes to show the hatred and ignorance of some.
lyn January 09, 2013 at 08:46 PM
If anyone is interested, here's just one item to look at that will give some insight into what Parma endured (this link is from the U.S. Dept. of Justice): http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/hce/documents/parmasettle.php
Bronco January 09, 2013 at 08:53 PM
lyn thank you for your appreciation for my service and...you're welcome. However, I have to disagree with you. To me when someone says riff raff it means undesirables, if you take it as a color or not riff raff is riff raff doesn't matter to me what ethnic group it is, if any.To sit by and let things get out of hand when you see problems arising is negligent on our part. We should not feel like we can't say or do anything when we know something isn't right just so no one gets mad or offended. I still am waiting for answers to many questions that have been asked here. What I think you are saying, I may be wrong..is to ignore any bad behavior so not to offend or anger a certain type. The young lady that said she had trouble in mall, that should be addressed. I don't see where it is wrong to address problems before they escalate. I am old but I still believe everyone has a right to their opinion and trying to get leaders to do what they can to keep city safe is fine. It is time to learn from mistakes in past and we have other cities to look at for guidance. I'm to old to worry about being called racist. I fought for free speech and rights and my gosh, I'm using them! Forgive me if I was wrong on your take on this.
lyn January 09, 2013 at 09:06 PM
"What I think you are saying, I may be wrong..is to ignore any bad behavior so not to offend or anger a certain type." That is NOT my opinion. As I mentioned above, any harrassing and threatening behavior should be reported to the authorities. But, the fact is, as a large growing community, we are not isolated and others will visit us. You cannot keep them out. If someone desires to live and shop among only their own, then a more rural, less populated area should be their destination. Not a large city that is fast growing and has been planning for a mall since the 1970's. If someone is trying to escape a growing, diversified city, then why move to another that is in the earlier stages of this, where the evidence is very obvious?
lyn January 09, 2013 at 09:14 PM
And yes, I agree, when I use the term "riff raff", I'm referring to a type of person - not color. But, it is very evident that some on here are using that label when talking about a certain color - and that is very sad when people parade around such believes in 2013.
Bronco January 09, 2013 at 09:38 PM
My Dear it is my vast understanding that when people have the means to move they move up in life to a better area with better schools and safer, getting away from undesirables, crime. I believe this still to be true.When people move they go to a place that may be small and growing it doesn't have the high crime and such, they don't think that it will turn bad. Rural if everyone flocks to it, to get away from riff raff turns into, as you said, diversified city. So you can never really get away, can you? Other cities have fallen to despair when undesirables move into cities making the law abiding citizens leave. You had every right to move into another place than Strongsville, you chose to stay on the South side...why, if I may ask? There was a question posed earlier what neighborhoods ever flourished when it was full of undesirables, and I haven't seen anyone answer yet? I do know many nice cities at one time that are in bad shape now due to crime. And if you are as old as me you remember Euclid Beach Park? Than you know what really was the fall of Euclid Beach Park and than the city of Euclid. No denying that. You seem like you have a lot of displaced anger towards white people?
lyn January 09, 2013 at 09:51 PM
I gave an example - Ohio City. Throughout the country in all the large cities you have areas of revitalization. I'm not well versed in the names of those as well, but Tribecka comes to mind. Many young people are going back to the cities and value those areas. I prefer an area like Strongsville, formerly from and grew up in Brecksville. But, don't you find it ironic that some people, white, have moved here for what they feel is a better life - yet those same people are upset when others are following them for the same reasons, as you stated. RE: "displaced anger towards white people" - I would better characterize my feelings as disappointment in those who feel superior to others and feel they are more entitled to things than another.
rochelle January 09, 2013 at 10:14 PM
OMG r u serious? I am not sheltered thank u. Dont be blaming cultures on how the black guys treated me and my friend. my black friends dont act like that! It was very disrespectful no matter what they might have thought. We were scared when we tried to ignore them they kept it up and started getting mean. We actually stayed into a store a long time waiting for them to leave. I dont care if u find it hard to believe we never were approached in that manner by white guys (you said white boys r u racist against whites?) ..but never have been! maybe more white guys have manners? besides thats hardly a good comparison. I cant believe u its like u already have your mind made up that we r lying or something and we r wrong and the black guys get a pass wow. If a nice looking white guy complimented me and was polite ahhh yeah I would not be offended because he was polite, not being offensive like at the mall with the black guys, asking us to go smoke stuff with them and telling me what they would do to me and gf if they got us alone. I guess u think that's ok cause its a cultural thing? Of course I have ran into white guys that are jerks but not like that besides that's not what we were talking about. I guess I am racist to because I only date white guys I am a bad person huh? BTW... I guess that makes my black friends who only date black guys racist! whatever
Bronco January 09, 2013 at 10:54 PM
lyn----You have every right to have that opinion I just disagree. Ohio City is diversified still more white and almost half and half Black/Hispanic. But they have more problems since being diversified rather than when it started with English and German descendants. You know something..even in prison they segregate themselves on their own..blacks with blacks..whites with whites..hispanics with hispanics etc...when you force people to live diversified you will get anger, not everyone wants it like that and you have to respect everyone's right to feel that way. You can't get mad if some black person only wants to live with blacks or white person only wants to live with whites its their right. I have lived a long time and I know different cultures don't mix well. It's just life. Some are raised different just like you said those black guys might think what they were doing to that young lady was ok but she didn't think so , that's what I mean they just don't mix. And whatever color you are why should anyone be subject to someone else's poor behavior?
lyn January 09, 2013 at 11:36 PM
I'm not saying we should force people to live where they don't want to - but you can't force someone else to not move here. Remember my Parma and the Justice Dept. comment, though - they were mandated to bring in those they had been forcing out and made to provide more low income housing. I don't want that either. And I agree, one should not be subjected to anyone's poor behavior, but sometimes that is unavoidable. But under no circumstances is threatening behavior okay and must be reported to the authorities. Otherwise, what good does it do if all you do is come on the Patch and complain about it and say other people need to do something about the degradation occurring - duh!
lyn January 09, 2013 at 11:46 PM
Beating a dead horse. I have responded to all your points and agreed with most. I said in above comments "Nothing wrong if you prefer to be with one of your own color" "It is possible that they meant you no harm, but their lingo was offensive to you - as it might be to me." "I would definitely NOT condone someone harrassing you - but if they were, I hope you contacted the authorities if this happened." "any harrassing and threatening behavior should be reported to the authorities" DID YOU REPORT IT? If you come on here to complain that people need to be concerned about the negative things you witness at the mall and feel action needs taken, did you take action and do your part to help prevent the decline by filing a report with the police?
lyn January 10, 2013 at 12:24 AM
Here's a question to all those blaming the outsiders for the crime and problems in our city- So, do you ever read the police blotter? What about those Strongsville teenage boys causing trouble in our neighborhoods? I constantly read in the police blotter about something or someone in the area/development behind where the new Giant Eagle store is going. Can't blame the mall for that and the store isn't even built and that area already has plenty of problems. But I'm sure once the store goes up those folks will blame it on Giant Eagle. Yeah, the majority of our crime right now is caused by your neighbors kids - not even the ones from renters families.
Bronco January 10, 2013 at 12:47 AM
lyn----Your contempt and I am sorry that's what it is. Your contempt for white people and seems wealthy people or well to do people is very disturbing. Why do you even live in Strongsville, why don't you live with the people you keep defending? Why don't you frequent their stores and eat in their restaurants? I try to understand everyone's point and believe they have a right to it but you are really beyond my understanding. And why do you keep bringing the mall into things? I'm sorry but I am starting to see a pattern with you that other's have as well and it's not pretty my dear. My gosh, you seem racist against anyone that is not low income. You know when someone sticks up for one side so much there is always a danger of the other side getting discriminated against. I think you are doing exactly that. You defend anyone not white and low income while at same time you are discriminating against the whites and middle to upper class. You are leaning way to left. Just my opinion, but your anger does show to much.
lyn January 10, 2013 at 02:43 AM
Non white does not mean low income. Racist statement. I bring up the mall only because Lisa and rochelle continually pointed to that as the example of how the city is in decline. I have NOT seen it. I am NOT the one who is angry over the supposed bad element found there. I have NO problem shopping there. To say I lean to the left is laughable. I am a right leaning independent and if you had read ANY of my posts on the political articles here on the Patch there is NO way you would even come close to say I was even somewhat left. You have totally misunderstood all that I have written. Simply put, everyone has a right to live and shop here. Period. It is unlawful to prevent them from doing so. That should be an easy concept to grasp.
lyn January 10, 2013 at 02:46 AM
"everyone has a right to live and shop here" You also served for people to have this right.
tom m January 10, 2013 at 06:50 AM
LOL and Bronco I am even farther to the right than Lyn .....wake up this is 2013 being a racist went out with disco ..........look around the only racists left are the blacks...... who all voted for obama Just because he was black
Bronco January 10, 2013 at 01:25 PM
tom m like I am to old to worry who calls me a racist, I did serve for everyone to have a right to their own opinions WITHOUT being called a racist. If you say blacks are racist which I tend to agree, than it has NOT gone out, 2013 or not. Young man if you seen and lived what I have, you would know 2013 is not a better time and in my day people were nicer and the races were not angry like this..forcing diversity has done this. Society is doing something wrong when it gets worse than better..wouldn't you agree? Another thing I know to be true..every ethnic group sticks together the white people are the only ones that will go against their own race, and the very people they are sticking up still can't stand them. My dear lyn---you are just an angry, bitter person and forgive me for saying but you are not an honest person either. You are racist against white people and the middle to upper class people, anyone reading your posts can see the contempt for them in it. everyone does have a rught to shop and live where they want BUT when you bring your excuse , cultural riff raff, like the young lady stated about the black men did to her at mall ..and you can't act, live or behave respectful than..people have a right to complain..whatever color you are. And that doesn't make them a racist for it!
lyn January 10, 2013 at 01:26 PM
LOL, but much truth in that! But there's also those few white stragglers who didn't get the memo!!!
Bronco January 10, 2013 at 01:58 PM
My dear lyn---You are proving my point...you said "Non white does not mean low income. Racist statement." That is what you got out of my comment? Right away you judge me for a racist comment, I believe dear you are so head strong on being discriminatory toward white people that you can't, or choose not to see what is really being said. My comment was "You defend anyone not white and low income" notice the AND in the sentence? That means there is two subjects I am referring to. White people and lower income people whatever color they are. Why are you so quick to pounce on any thing that you think would be against a minority? Are you affiliated with the NAACP by any chance?
lyn January 10, 2013 at 02:10 PM
LOL- Yeah that's me! I'm chair of the NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus, and in my spare time I serve as Obama's press secretary. But don't tell anyone because all my friends and family think my political views are the complete opposite of those groups and people. Shhhhh...
Bronco January 10, 2013 at 02:27 PM
lyn--- you have a history on this board, as I read posts again by everyone, to pounce on anyone that you think is talking against minorities and you show to be always trying to find fault or not believeing them if they are white. (you found Rochelle's story hard to believe, and excused black men by their culture) To me you can deny what you are but proof is in everyone of your posts. I know the truth. Forgive me dear but I think this subject should be closed now, at least between me and you. I have things to do have a nice day
lyn January 10, 2013 at 02:30 PM
Bronco - I "pounce" on ignorance when I see it.
James Murphy January 10, 2013 at 03:25 PM
Bronco --- Being that you served in the military in "the good old days" where there was still some segregation occurring (which I am sure made you happy) and racism is ingrained into your soul and all the discussions on this board will not change that. I have live in high point for 19 years and there are many families of many different nationalities and ethnic backgrounds, I have and have never had any problems with any of my "neighbors" BUT if you want to talk about Strongsville trash and riff-raff the whole north end of the city is full of them, and is represented by all the races, not just the race you keep referring to as "them"
Jean Williams January 10, 2013 at 04:33 PM
THANK YOU James Murphey Very Very well said

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