School Board Makes New Offer to Teachers; Union Counters

District offers pay raises; SEA says they're not enough


The Strongsville Board of Education made its first move away from its "last best offer" on Sunday, drafting a new proposal for striking teachers.

The new offer came after the district announced a tax windfall of $3.2 million in unexpected revenue.

The Strongsville Education Association has responded with a counter-offer and harsh words.

"The Board of Education still has no interest in ending the strike and returning highly qualified teachers to the classroom," an SEA news release sent out Monday afternoon says.

The School Board, which had called for a two-year freeze on step and column increases, is now offering raises of a half-step for the 2013-14 and 2014-15 school years. Column increases would stay frozen.

Teachers not eligible or at the highest step would get a one-time payment of $1,200.

"In an effort to bring the teachers back to the classroom, we have updated the proposal to the teachers union as well,” School Board President David Frazee said in a statement. “The bottom line is that this is a proposal that our school district can afford and sustain.”

The School Board's new offer also offers no reprisals for teachers' behavior before or during the strike, although it excludes "criminal proceedings or any proceedings by the Ohio Department of Education arising under the Licensure Code of Conduct for Professional Educators."

The SEA's counter-offer calls for regular step and column increases to resume, although it no longer seeks to have the step levels restored to where they would have been if they hadn't been frozen last year.

And it calls for "no interruption, suspension or freeze of any step and/or column movement in the future."

The counter-offer also seeks two payments for teachers who don't get step raises of $1,500 each.

And the SEA says there are still "differences on crucial language issues" in the two proposals. 

The SEA maintains the monetary difference between its proposal and the school board's is less than $1 million over the course of the three-year agreement.

Both sides have agreed to eliminate future raises for Voluntary Professional Growth.

To see the School District's new proposal, click here. For the SEA's, click here.

School officials announced Sunday they had learned over the last week that tax revenues were higher than anticipated and the district would receive $3.2 million over its projections.

Frazee said some of the money would go to reducing the general education and pay-to-play fees.

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lyn April 16, 2013 at 09:06 PM
And won't it be nice that it will be in the hands of the ODE to follow through with all the complaints. It won't cost the taxpayers here any money when each loser teacher is punished but the union would have fought the district on each and every complaint, even the most egregious.
parent222 April 16, 2013 at 09:11 PM
While at the high school to pick up my son, I saw a student walking with her mother (a sub) - Mrs. Klein (physics teacher at the high school) yells across the parking lot "You're a SCAB" and then yells at the daughter/student "And you're the daughter of a SCAB". So hurtful and uncalled for. I guess they'll stoop to any level now.
lyn April 16, 2013 at 09:12 PM
Jenny- Now that is funny! There are more than enough posters to comment on here to point out the flaws in all that the teachers have asked for and said. It is easy to see that those who are pro-teachers just don't have the facts or can't backup what they say - because they don't have the knowledge that the community members would - so those are poorly bad PR folks. You guys have only spread propaganda and nothing else. Except for those kids trying to pretend to be adults but can't hack an actual exchange of facts to debate.
StrongDad April 16, 2013 at 09:14 PM
I really hope the SEA settle fast because looking at the posted picture they need new clothes. How did the one in the background get those tight jeans on? I do agree with the first lady's sign of "teachers make all other professions possible". Without teachers we wouldn't have drug dealers, strippers, prostitutes, professional athletes -- because teachers really gave them all of their skills, right? Thank you!
StrongDad April 16, 2013 at 09:18 PM
Good job Mrs. Klein---remember you claim to love the students.
michael gigliotti April 16, 2013 at 09:49 PM
ron I may be ignorant however if you and your brother moe are togeather we get the moeron (moron). anyway my children already go to a real school not your liberal indoctrination center that you send your flock of sheep to. but glad to hear your wife was quite fertile that God allowed you to have several offspring.
Huntington Caldwell IV April 16, 2013 at 10:03 PM
Yes, the SEA teachers are proven bullies. The BOE reminded us the best way to deal with bullies, by metaphorically punching them right in the mouth. Great work BOE! No non-repraisal cause!
jw93 April 17, 2013 at 12:19 AM
From Tad Colbeck to the SEA: "Salary-We are NOT in agreement on this. The Board is offering ZERO column movement for the next two years, ½ a step in 2013-2014 and ½ a step in 2014-2015. They are also offering a $1,200 stipend for 2013-2014 only. We are asking for FULL step and column movement for the life of the agreement and a $1,500 stipend for the next two years for eligible teachers. The Board already has the cost of our step and column movement factored into their forecast for both years. Step and column movement is something they can easily afford, have already budgeted into their forecast and are required to do by law unless we agree otherwise!" But it's not about the money!
jw93 April 17, 2013 at 12:21 AM
More from Tad Colbeck to the SEA members: "No Reprisal-We are NOT in agreement on this issue. The Board wants language allowing them to go after any SEA member of their choosing for criminal violations and for so-called Code of Conduct violations. The only reason the Board wants this is to target SEA members for engaging in protected strike activity. Their hope is to blaze a legal trail that creates new case law in Ohio. We will NOT agree to this language as written." Translation - you're on strike! Do whatever the hell you want as long as you don't break the law and we win!
jw93 April 17, 2013 at 12:22 AM
And more from Tad: "Unfortunately the Board still refuses to honor steps, columns and reasonable stipends in both years of the contract. Basically, when it comes to finances, it’s the same as the financial terms of their LBO plus a step, no columns, and $1,200 for one year only. This is actually worse than what they had on the table before members crossed our picket line last week. Furthermore they remain entrenched on the No Reprisal Clause and other items listed above. Until they move from their unreasonable position we will remain apart on a settlement. When you consider that they are sitting on an additional $3.9 to $4.8 million dollars more than initially projected the ONLY reason for such behavior is spite." Everyone's out to get the poor SEA. All they want is a lot more money. What's wrong with that?
replace the board April 17, 2013 at 01:57 AM
all we want is what is due to us, this money was promised to us by Lampert before he retired. this money should be honored by the current administration
StrongDad April 17, 2013 at 02:04 AM
I agree with you RTB. Go tell Lampert that he owes you money. You sound ridiculous when you say a retired person promised you something. Why do you think he retired before this round of negotiations--because he lied to you well educated people and you fell for it. Such "book smart" Fools!!
replace the board April 17, 2013 at 02:08 AM
yes you are correct , we are well educated teachers and when we leave you will be stuck with cleveland trash teaching your brats
StrongDad April 17, 2013 at 02:16 AM
I didn't call you teachers---I said well educated people. I would welcome Cleveland teachers--please go to Cleveland for a day and then come crawling back to Strongsville because you couldn't handle it in a rough district. Cleveland teachers are some of the hardest working and most dedicated professionals. They aren't handed a bunch of honor students to teach like the SEA is handed. Please answer my prayers and leave. Thank you God!!!
jw93 April 17, 2013 at 02:16 AM
As opposed to trash like you. Trash is trash. And you are trash. Now go back to complaining about the cost of benches honoring murdered kids because that money should go into your pocket.
CommonSense April 17, 2013 at 03:11 AM
"and when we leave you will be stuck with cleveland trash teaching your brats" I'm really shocked by your choice of words. If you are a teacher you are setting a very bad example and it's hard for me to believe that highly educated person like you would call all other teachers "trash" and Strongsville students "brats".
CommonSense April 17, 2013 at 05:27 AM
Why is it again that "Salary Upgrade" is not a raise? I'm looking at Strongsville Board of Education meeting PDF document file from September 20, 2012 and I see many salary increases/salary upgrades. If it is not a raise, than it looks like by taking few courses teaches are practicing double dipping. Just so you know that we outside of your teachers world do educate ourselves too, but we do it for a different reason, you do it for the money and we do it to better ourselves to prove that we are worthy of the money. And here is a good quote when it comes to promises "Promises are like snowballs easy to make but hard to keep"
Donna April 17, 2013 at 09:23 PM
replace the board----What a nasty thing to say. Why would you call a fellow teacher trash? I would have thought that there was more solidarity among the family of educators. If you are Indeed an educator, you have spoken out of turn and you have compromised your moral character. Very tasteless on your part.
Friends For Naso April 17, 2013 at 09:39 PM
Anything that the teachers get coming out of the taxpayers' pockets should be considered part and parcel of the total package. For example, Linscott's pay $80,000. Benefits $40,000 (the number is in fact larger, as benefits runs more than 50% of salary). And, knowing that 20-30 years down the road (when Linscott will be getting her pension checks) we would be lucky if our state pension funds are only underfunded by 75%, for every 10% of her pay city residents pay for her pension contribution, $8,000, taxpayers will eventually need to cough up another $24,000. So we are talking about Linscott's cost structure for taxpayers every year being more than $144,000. This is the figure we should be thinking about or looking at when talking about a SEA teacher making $80,000. Unsustainable? YES. Overpaid? YES. Chinese factory minimum wage? NO! http://buckeyestatepolitics.com/?p=729
Friends For Naso April 17, 2013 at 09:50 PM
How dare the SEA spokeperson on Patch here attack their brothers and sisters teaching in the inner city! Those are the brave souls, a lot of them African-American and Hispanic-American teachers. Personally, I think our SEA teachers can and should get an injection of much more diversity in their ranks! Many of the inner city teachers, minorities and white teachers, have degrees from far better colleges than those the SEA teachers graduated from. We the residents of Strongsville should embrace "change" and help ensure a work environment that our SEA teachers have failed to create, in welcoming highly qualified minority teachers to our city for the enrichment of our students' educational experience as well as in ensuring a higher quality education for our kids--we should work towards 15% Hispanic American teachers, 13% African American teachers, 10% Asian American teachers, 7% homosexual teachers, and so on. I doubt that any of these new teachers would have voted Linscott for President in the first place! We as a city are not afraid to embrace diversity, in fact, we welcome and cherish it. It is diversity of insanity that we can't stand -- 377 shades of stupidity, 377 shades of arrogance, 377 shades of entitlement, that's what we do not embrace.
Faith April 18, 2013 at 03:38 PM
Cleveland trash? Seriously? Spoken like a true, spoiled, suburban brat. There is no difference between the people of Cleveland and the people of Strongsville. The only difference is the people of Strongsville are better at keeping things a secret.
Marian April 19, 2013 at 06:04 AM
Marian April 19, 2013 at 06:33 AM
This strike has never been about the students! It's always been about the almighty $. I hope the BOE stays strong. Rather than use the excess $ to line the striking teacher's pockets, put it where it belongs . . . for the students!!!
Donna April 19, 2013 at 08:08 PM
The wife of a co-worker teaches in Strongsville. He has been pretty quiet about the strike, understandably so. I respect him for not bringing controversy into the workplace. However, today he made a comment about a settlement being in the offing as soon as early next week. He didn't have anything else to say and no one questioned him. I am curious as to how he could have any information at all since there have been no further negotiations since the SEA turned down the last offer. Any thoughts? Also, what do we know about last night's meeting at the high school. Haven 't seen anything posted.
Huffmaster Plant April 19, 2013 at 08:12 PM
I honestly think they string them along every week to keep them from crossing. They always want it to appear that a resolution is close. And the meeting? Check the other threads, it was chaos, caused by the SEA of course
Donna April 19, 2013 at 08:51 PM
Linscott is a real piece of work. It's cold and raining----so let's suspend the picketing. Unbelievable! I understand they've been picketing the place of business of one of the board members out in Beachwood. Wonder if they would do the same if the business were in Strongsville where everyone could see more of their obnoxious behavior?
Donna April 19, 2013 at 08:56 PM
CLASS ACT TEACHERS!!!!! And you wonder why you've lost all respect and credibility! Striking Strongsville teachers tried a new tactic Tuesday, sending protesters to the workplace of School Board member Carl Naso in Beachwood. Naso said about 40 union supporters, some carrying signs with his employer's phone number, walked and yelled in front of his office from about 3 to 6 p.m. "They shouted and bullied my coworkers as they went in and out of the building," Naso said. "And they shouted insults about me." But he was more upset that about 50 members of the Strongsville Education Association, which represents the striking teachers, also gathered in front of his home at the same time. "They knew I was still at work, and they still sent people to my house," Naso said. "They knew only my wife and daughter were home."
Survival of the Fittest April 20, 2013 at 06:40 PM
Unionized Labor Unions are becoming a joke in this country. They are archaic and disrupt the flow of capitalism. The SEA is just that. You teachers need to think for yourselves and stand up to this bull. Cant tell me that everyone of you argree with this, because I will tell you what..... for every one of you teachers out there... theres about 10 eqaully qualified ones that would love to have your job and appreciate it. This country forgot what it was founded on.... you dont like your conditions then guess what.. GET OUT.. plenty of people need jobs out there that would be more than happy to work.. especially in this economy. Abolish the SEA... fire those teachers and get someone in that appreciates what they have and the work they provide. For those of you that defend the teachers.. The SEA is the voice of the teachers... trust me.. the teachers can stand up and think for themselves and if enough of them stand up to this then I doubt this would be going on so long. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads saying the have to work there. If you dont like what your making or your conditions at work and you think you can do better.. then GO FIND IT! and go work there... let someone who wants to work take your spot.. otherwise stop wasting our childrens time.
William F April 21, 2013 at 08:48 PM
It's time you realize that your kids' teachers think you're a joke, David. You have no credibility with them whatsoever. Your actions, rants and agendas speak volumes, and teachers are NOT intimided by you. In ANY way.
David April 21, 2013 at 11:38 PM
William F: It took you five days to come up with that? Typical teacher response stating that the parents are the "jokes". And it's not parents that need to have credibility with teachers, it's the teachers that need to have credibility with the parents (which you definitely don't!) Let's check the score: I'm still smarter than you, well employed, and my kids are doing great. You and your band of ex-teachers are still unpaid, still don't get it, never coming back, and most importantly, couldn't be more IRRELEVANT. Get back to sending out the resumes. BTW, not sure what "intimided" means; maybe you can explain it when you come to my door asking for signatures, panhandling, or whatever you are doing door-to-door.


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