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Strike Sympathizers Get Message from School Board

Absences of non-union employees won't be tolerated, resolution says

 

Strongsville school leaders are making it clear that if teachers strike March 4, other employees are expected to cross the picket lines and report to work.

The School Board passed a resolution Thursday night that says in the event of a work stoppage, all other employee absences must be substantiated by written proof, and that unauthorized absence could lead to dismissal, disciplinary action and/or loss of pay and benefits.

"It basically gives the superintendent authority to enforce our policies during a strike," Board President David Frazee said. "If you're going to take sick leave, you have to have a legitimate medical excuse -- that kind of thing."

The strike resolution says unauthorized leave would include "individual and/or collective refusals to provide service, unauthorized use of sick leave, unauthorized use of other leave benefits, non-attendance at required meetings and failure to perform supervisory functions at school-sponsored activities."

Those on strike are exempt from the resolution.

Unauthorized leave constitutes a breach of contract and could lead to termination.

The resolution also puts a spending cap of $200 per day on substitute teachers hired during a strike.

The Strongsville Education Association filed a notice to strike and -- unless a contract settlement is reached -- walk out on March 4.

More than 300 teachers and supporters attended Thursday night's school board meeting, a number of them seeking to make public statements and question school officials about the lack of progress in contract talks.

Teachers have been working without a contract since July.

The School Board went into executive session after regular business was finished at the meeting, then came out and approved the strike resolution.

JIm February 26, 2013 at 05:56 PM
That is a CHOICE. You are not asking us anything. You feel entitled. I have no doubt you have had students you loved and cared for, but give me a break. That storyline is getting old. If we cannot afford it, we cannot. Also... the Strongsville teachers have behaved awfully... calling into question their compassionate character. Picketing private homes? They have sealed their own fate with our town.
Mustang February 26, 2013 at 07:09 PM
Beverly, You have the wrong facts. 1) The girl was not punched in the face. 2) They did not press charges cause the girl admitted she made it up but not to her parents until later. This is the real reason why the charges were dropped. 3) OSU never offered him a scholarship therefore could not pull an offer. 4) He was not arrested for public drunkenness he was arrested for being in a bar past the hours 18 year olds were allowed in. The girl made getting punched up and eventually had to transfer school due to all the ridicule from other students about making a false accusation like that. You had no clue what that boy had to endure because some girl got mad at him and made up a story.
Michael L. Cotter February 26, 2013 at 07:10 PM
This whole strike situation is a complete and utter joke. The teachers are holding our kids hostage! Give us what we want or we will strike, now there is a positive attitude for you. Instead of being a part of the problem, how about being a part of the solution? The residents of Strongsville need to educate themselves, all teacher salaries are in fact a part of the public record. Go to casb.org( citizen action standards board) and look for youself. Strongsville city schools have some of the highest salaries in the state of Ohio. Come on now lets be serious, teachers DO NOT even work a full year for their salaries. They work maybe 9-10 months at best, and all they want is more, more, more. Why don't you guys stop hiding behind your union and all the rhetoric. If you wanted to earn big bucks, you all should have gone to school for a different career. The private sector would kill to have the benefits you guys have and yet you all whine that it is not enough. You guys are no better than the cry baby millionaire athletes who go on strike for more money. GET OVER YOURSELVES AND EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN!!!
Michael L. Cotter February 26, 2013 at 07:16 PM
Well Jim they will not make it public because they know damn well that the citizens would probably lynch them. The only reason to keep anything a secret is because you have something to hide.
Beverly February 26, 2013 at 07:43 PM
Mustang YOU ARE WRONG & I'll believe a policeman who did the intake every day over you- who are obviously a friend or family member making excuses for his bad behavior.People need to accept responsibility when they behave badly.Even IF -and that's a big IF,some of the facts regarding his scholarship being pulled aren't accurate, then answer me why he was suspended for a set number of athletic events following this incident because of his actions? Have to give him points for creativity though: he/his coaches/parents found a loophole & had him join track, because it was in the next season ( a spring sport) he normally wouldn't participate in,so that the suspension wouldn't affect his senior year of football-oh so clever of them. He was also involved in many incidents of underage drinking where he was destructive at a friend's home & those parents called his to ask help getting him out of their house because he was out of control .Another example-he & his friend's parents had to pay thousands of dollars restitution for a cabin he & others damaged after prom. Ray was throwing glass beer bottles against the wall & acting crazy/out of control.Want me to go on about your" little angel"? THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR HIS BAD BEHAVIOR & he needs help.His parents & coaches do him no favors,nor do you, by trying to save his butt each time-that's called enabling & they are doing a bang up job of it. Want me to list witnesses too? You opened a can of worms trying to enable your friend.
Kim L February 26, 2013 at 07:58 PM
what !!! you dot think the taxpayers will go along with the $15,000 I heard the teachers are asking for in their contract proposal
Mustang February 26, 2013 at 08:27 PM
Beverley, I know for a fact he was never offered a scholarship to OSU. As far as the suspension that was because of drinking not the so called assault. There were other athletes suspend from the same party. I do know the facts because I was there the next day when he and the girl where hanging out and she had no black eye. You have completely changed the direction of the conversation. I was not defending him for his drinking. I have been a first had witness to some of it and do no condole it so do not take it as I am solely defending him. I know he gets out of control and know all about the cabins. That is not what I was referring to. No one is enabling him and I probably have far more witnesses than you. I was merely pointing out that he never hit the girl and that people should stop talking about that and criticizing Lynch and him for it. Move on.
Both sides February 26, 2013 at 08:58 PM
I have read both proposals to comprehend both sides of the dispute in Strongsville. I initially thought that the Union leadership were pursuing an aggressive position that may not be in the best interest of the teachers or the distict, but after reading both proposals, it is clear that promises made by the School Board to achieve the concessions in the 2010 agreement have not been honored. Those broken commitment have forced forcing the Union to take the current aggressive position. I have faith in the negotiations process until one side reneges on its word.The School board should have honored it agreement and then, I am sure the current negotiations would have started with the foundation of respect instead of mistrusting a known Union busting attorney. For those who are jealous of the Union, remember that the standard of a 40 hour work week, earned vacation time, overtime pay, holiday pay and reasonable discipline is a result of what the union, all unions, have fought and won over the last 100 plus years. I support the Strongsville teachers in their fight. The community needs to understand that the teachers have dedicated their careers to assist in the education of our future, our kids. listen to the kids that spoke at the board meeting, they wept'd at the thought of losing the teachers that have supported them for the last 12 years. That speaks volumes to what our teachers are worth.
Greg Pappo February 26, 2013 at 09:25 PM
This sounds like a good place to view your thoughts on the strongsville sports program..
Beverly February 26, 2013 at 09:26 PM
That is fabulous Both Sides! But the fact remains-the one & ONLY FACT that matters in all of this-THERE IS NO MONEY TO FUND THINGS THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST & therefore changes need to be made. Sorry,but concessions WILL need to be made by teachers.Right,wrong or indifferent,no matter what you believe ,or whose side you want to stand on-the fact remains,there IS NO MONEY PEOPLE -GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS!!! If some rich businessperson in town wants to pony up $ to keep things running for another year or 2,then problem solved! However,I don't think that's realistic or what will happen. Brace yourself people,the rides about to get rougher as our country faces more financial strain.Italy is near financial collapse, as are other countries,the Dow is down & there are lots more things going on in the world that will strain Americans financially in the months to come. Thank you Dictator Obama for adding to that strain w/your cockamamie socialist policies & "health care for all". The middle class can't afford any more for ANYONE . SIMPLE: NO FUNDS= NO CADILLAC BENEFITS/RETIREMENT. Get used to it,it's only the beginning
James Murphy February 26, 2013 at 09:30 PM
Well both sides since you have stated " I have read both unreleased proposals" you are in fact a teacher or family of teacher (save it dont bother denting it) and since you failed upfront to disclose this upfront your opinion is now worth zero and save the union flag waving the unions will not be coming to your defense WE will defend the right to strike But for support you are on your own and as others have said "teachers and NFL football players should have never been allowed to unionize" so both sides crawl back into your little dark corner till tomorrow when you can re-appear with yet another new screen name
Tracy Smith February 26, 2013 at 09:35 PM
How have you read both proposals, have they been published or are you on the negotiating team?
lyn February 26, 2013 at 11:54 PM
Gee. I thought I was the only they let read the proposals besides the ones at the table - you know only a few are suppose to be able to read them, but I asked and smiled and said please and they said, "oh, alright - just you." Now I find out I'm not the only one? Anyone else thought they were special too? When I read them, I was so surprised at how much the teachers thought they should get. I thought maybe a comedian wrote it. But, since now others have read them also, I guess I can also admit I read them very thoroughly - and oh yeah, I made copies too. I'll try and find that $15,000 raise they want, I think it was in paragraph 5b. But there were about 10 page of demands from them, but sometimes it was so tear stained from those crybabies, it was hard to tell how many zeros were in their demands and how many times it said "no no, never gonna pay anymore towards any of our benefits - other people gotta keep forking over them big bucks for me so I can get me another Lexus next year."
Michael L. Cotter February 27, 2013 at 12:54 AM
We, as taxpayers have to ask, where does it end????? Everything has its limits. I agree teachers, like firefighters, police officers, our military and so on, are in fact very valuable to us as a society. Where does it end???? are teachers worth $200,000/year or $1,000,000/year. The fact of the matter is that the teachers enjoy a better salary and benefits than most of us in the private sector. Lets face it you will not get rich being a teacher, if you all claim to care about our children, then stop worrying about your paycheck and educate them!
James Murphy February 27, 2013 at 01:48 AM
the teachers union picked the wrong city to dig in their heels, the community does not support the teachers AND the teachers have done everything so far wrong to earn any sympathy from the fence sitters, when they go on strike the residents will rally around the school board and give them all the support they need
lyn February 27, 2013 at 01:55 AM
These "promises" that the loser teachers keep saying were broken - so, if there was really something that you should have been counting on, why wasn't it in the last contract? That's what all these talks are for - a contract, not some verbal agreement. Who are you trying to convince and put one over on? The public? We know what a contract is for. And that stupid comment about them telling the public to vote against a levy - do you just make stuff up as each day passes? You guys must have an average IQ that is lower than any other group of teachers in the state if you really believe everything that comes out of that person's mouth that speaks on your behalf, that thing I wipe off my shoe that I step in. I can't believe my opinion of this group of individuals has gotten any lower than what it was. I hope those who haven't participated in this craziness come forward so we can give them the respect that is due them. Its strange how I can have such strong polar opposite opinions of people in the same field, but I do. CHARACTER is the defining point. And the reverse - we should have the names of all those who marched on the homes so we can also take a similar action. Can anyone begin a list of teachers and I will start searching out the cuyahoga property records for their address if we can't find them through the white pages.
lyn February 27, 2013 at 01:56 AM
May I have some information, please? That head loser, Tracy said in her ramblings of half truths, that "over 100 teaching positions that have been cut since 2007." Does anyone know how many teachers have retired since 2007? If there are 100 less teachers, in the past 5 years, how many of that number is due to retirement? Isn't that a bit misleading, that thing on the bottom of my shoe? The following is the number of teacher each year per the Ohio Department of Education, if anyone is interested: 371.2 - 2007-08 399.2 - 2008-09 381.9 - 2009-10 363.7 - 2010-11 ???? - 2011-12 And now the number they use currently, they we keep hearing: 385 ---2012-13 So, how does this reconcile with all this talk about 100 jobs lost? It appears +14 since 2007, and the enrollment is significantly down - so therefore, less teachers would be needed. And what about all the teachers that have retired? How many have retired each year?
Elsie February 27, 2013 at 02:33 AM
Lyn, The numbers on these sites are not representing everyone in their union. This probably represents classroom teachers when the real count of union members would include guidance counselors, psychologists, special education specialists, tutors, etc. ODE pulls information from a huge database - it can have errors and miscodings just like any other large database. Look at the Board agenda, they list the retirees by name in April or May. There have been large groups of retirements in the last few years they are recognized at a Board meeting - if you watch them - I know there has been a long list of names. New hires are also listed in the Board agenda when they are hired. You can probably count the difference by reading the agenda. The agenda is online on the strongnet site,
Homer Strongstucky February 27, 2013 at 02:48 AM
Yes Wendy. I was trying to be polite but somehow our fair city has become a mini-haven for stupid people. For example, the comment that the union employees on strike can be terminated and replaced because they are now "at-will" is 100% false. This challenge soul learned the phrase "at-will" and thought they would sound wordly by using it. Even if it is completely wrong.
Homer Strongstucky February 27, 2013 at 02:55 AM
Pebbles is the only clear-cut winner at $250 per billable man hour. Last I heard the board had TWO of Pebbles lawyers...raking in $500 per hour.
Jean Williams February 27, 2013 at 05:39 AM
homer they cannot fire them, but if they voluntarily walk off the job (strike) and the board refuses to settle, the teachers do not HAVE to be rehired even those who cross the picket line
lyn February 27, 2013 at 03:09 PM
The district has provided many answers to our questions online: http://www.strongnet.org/cms/lib6/OH01000884/Centricity/Domain/1/Questions%20and%20Answers.pdf
Tina Lewis Kozarik February 27, 2013 at 04:05 PM
Don't buy into the untruths & propaganda being disseminated to our children in the classrooms. The district has set up a webpage with lots of great information to answer most, if not all, of your questions. http://www.strongnet.org/negotiationnews
tom m February 27, 2013 at 04:21 PM
a much better teachers salary website http://www.tos.ohio.gov/teacher_salary
lyn February 27, 2013 at 04:42 PM
If anyone wants to check out that webpage and info that Tracy and Tina provided in the future, you can find it easily by just going to the Strongsville schools home page and find "negotiation news" there - just click on it and there you are!
lyn February 27, 2013 at 04:45 PM
I'm sure that the teachers will come on here next and try and discredit the info found at this site just like they do with the Buckeye site
yes i am a teacher February 27, 2013 at 10:36 PM
um just saying they are not "greedy cowards" for not publishing their demands....it is actually illegal for them to do so. It would also be illegal for the board to publish their proposal so neither side is being a coward for not publishing their proposal.
lyn February 27, 2013 at 10:48 PM
yes teacher- more propaganda and twisting the facts- If both sides agree to show the proposals, then there is no problem. It is only a problem if one side were to do it and the other did not approve - YOU KNOW THAT!
Homer Strongstucky February 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM
The board canceled their Saturday session with their attorney and therefore they will not respond to the latest counter offer, thus assuring students of a minimum one week of scab teaching. They want to bust this union and appease the Tea Party, uneducated trash that represents a significant part of Strongstuckey.
Kim L February 27, 2013 at 11:38 PM
yes homer --we uneducated tea party trash living in our 300k+ non government paid for homes that pay the wages of these ungrateful teachers hey teachers the grass is greener elsewhere

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