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Poll: How are You Voting on Market District Rezoning?

Voters will decide fate of proposed grocery store

In less than a week, voters will decide the fate of a proposed Market District store on Pearl Road. 

 seeks to rezone a 5-acre section of the property from residential to business to allow to build a store.

The rest of the property is already zoned for business use.

There are . What are yours? After you vote, feel free to explain in the "Comments" section.

kenneth malady February 29, 2012 at 01:26 PM
The Catan family has done SO MANY good things for the community !!! They also know business ! If they are helping to get this built I would heed their advice and vote YES on rezoning !!!
lyn February 29, 2012 at 01:32 PM
RE: those Vote NO signs Since the signs are still up and no one has responded to my earlier questions, once again: I thought it was illegal to attach to utility poles Have all election/filing... procedures been followed for posting signs,... (i.e., proper permits, or whatever needed and do the signs have the required info on them?) Even when you are against a levy, I think you have to follow certain legal guidelines. Just like the VOTE YES folks have to. And, after all, you want Giant Eagle to follow all proper procedures - from rezoning on. So should you. But, I might be wrong on some of this.
Debbie Palmer February 29, 2012 at 01:42 PM
Lyn, I'm sure you're right about posting signs on utility poles. I think the Building Department removes them when inspectors see them or when they receive a complaint.
Janice Justice February 29, 2012 at 01:45 PM
Does it matter how we vote? The city and Ward 1 residents overwhelming voted NO to the development of the Costco area. The developers then got a judge to overturn our votes. I would guess the same thing will happen with this property.
lyn February 29, 2012 at 02:05 PM
I bet you're right on that. My nonlegal opinion is that they would win since this property has always been used for business purposes, so it would probably be an easy legal judgement by the courts. But, I wonder if the levy should fail, and they take the legal route, would there then be a need to make all the improvements they were negotiating with the homeowners to get the levy passed?
Mustage Mom February 29, 2012 at 03:39 PM
I vote no...this is all moving to fast . Money is in there from the Power in town. At all meetings the people are asking why the store could not be moved toward Pearl Road and off the long time property owners. The reasoning appears to be clear.. sell the frontage on Pearl(zoned commercial) and build on top of the people. I find this sad and as a community think we should demand that Giant Eagle work with a community mind. I too want a store out of the mall mess. Years ago I wrote, called and questioned why Rini's closed the store that anchored the strip mall where Big Lots is located. I see profit coming to Giant Eagle and the land owners before the store is off the drawing board. Please ask as a community why the rush to a vote, how can another large gas station be built so close to the current station at Pearl and Shurmer, where is all the water really going to go in a heavy rain and finally, why 24/7?????? My vote will be no with caution since the standards for buffer , no city design flow plan in place and water drainage have not been mapped out. Drive Pearl Road south and see the changes and for sale signs that have come up in the last weeks. Planning is something that Strongsville sadly LACKS!
LTR February 29, 2012 at 03:51 PM
A grocery store can go there without the issue passing. I am not adverse to a grocery store going there but we don't need a huge megastore that is open 24 hours along with a gas station and a free standing bank. There already is a gas station at the corner of Pearl and Shurmer with a bank right next door. This monster is going to be right on top of people's homes. Would you want to live next door to this?
lyn February 29, 2012 at 03:57 PM
In an ideal world, there would be park land, or common area belonging to that developments homeowners association, between them and the soon to be built store, but the home builder built those homes where the residents were gambling on what would someday come. Now, 35 years later, they are being given a 90 ft. buffer, which is more than those other stores further up the street came close to getting. I don't know what would be an acceptable distance - its grown from the original plans. I think its rather unrealistic to expect a landowner, big or small, to own unusable property.
Mar February 29, 2012 at 04:36 PM
I have a question: How would the "leaders" of our community who are so in favor of this Giant Eagle, like to have a 24/7 box store in their backyard?
Janet Yurcik February 29, 2012 at 04:45 PM
I think this would be great! It would be a positive addition to the businesses on Pearl Rd. and alleviate having to deal with mall traffic (especially at holiday times) just to go and get groceries. Plus, the concept is something that we need in Strongsville-something unique and different with some healthier options. With it's proximity to Marc's it might also bring some great competition, that may result in lower prices. I usually go to Marc's first anyways, and then have to go to Giant Eagle to get whatever Marc's didn't have, so the convenience of being practically across the street would be great. I hardly ever go to Giant Eagle now, mostly because I don't want to deal with the traffic on 82. Yes, this would be bring more traffic down Pearl, but nothing can be as bad as the mall traffic is!
lyn February 29, 2012 at 05:09 PM
If you have been following any of the discussions, you should know there are no tax advantages being given to Giant Eagle and to throw that out is irresponsible of you, unless you are truly uninformed. Also, as you said, funny how people don't care until it happens to them. Hmmmmmm... and where was all the concern for those living behind ALDI's and MARC's and the one time FAZIO's? They just got a fence. I think all of us back here were pretty quiet when others were dealing with development. I welcome a store 2 streets away - more convenient, no mall traffic to deal with.
lyn February 29, 2012 at 05:18 PM
Before someone else says it -never mind about MARC's
Janet Yurcik February 29, 2012 at 05:41 PM
While I do support the residents, they it's not like this is a currently undeveloped zone. It is already being used for business purposes, with the driving range and ice cream shop. I know it will be a larger business going in there, but I still think it would be great for the community, and the convenience issue is huge, not only with location, but with hours. Not everyone works a 9-5 job, and some of us only have time to shop later in the evening, or on their way home from work, so this would be a great option. If Giant Eagle moves, then another store will take it's place on Rt. 82, and that would then create more jobs for that store as well. I think if the city works with the residents to minimize the noise or any other potential disturbances as much as possible, this would be a great addition.
lyn February 29, 2012 at 06:26 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the strip of land next to the driving range that has the trees is already zoned for business - it is only the back part of the driving range where the balls are hit into now that is up for rezoning. Also, once again, since we seem to want to be picky on points, I think Fazios was built about 1978/1979. I will silently bow out and let others bicker away.
Mustage Mom February 29, 2012 at 07:06 PM
Thanks lyn, I was beginning to think you were on the payroll! Folks, think of our city. The march down Pearl Road is just beginning. I encourage you to stand as a community and fight for our hometown. We can only spend so much Obey, when will there be more store fronts with signs...For Rent? To those so greatly effected, my vote stands with you. You bought and lived with the knowledge that the land would stay "Green". Now the entire city will make a choice that changes the quality of you daily life with no let up anytime of day or day of the year. Strongsville, make the "Big Bird" move out to Pearl Road and give the long time residents some peace. Thanks for reading and thanks for this forum.
lyn February 29, 2012 at 08:37 PM
I'm back!! Something has really been bothering me for a long time. I've been trying to think this out logically, and after still trying to put myself in the homeowners shoes, because I think there was a gamble in buying a home there to begin with and now, 35 years later, everyone else is to blame. Here's what doesn't make sense: When did you find out this property at the back of the driving range was zoned residential? After all, It is used for business purposes. Did you just now find out when it became a rezoning issue? And, IF you say that you knew it was residential, why didn't you demanded that land NOT be used for business, and ask for them to move the net 300+ feet up? Please try to follow my line of thinking - and I'm trying to understand your viewpoint. This is what many of us don't understand, and if you help us with this, then it may help you. Most of us think you believed it was already zoned business. And if you didn't, because we all know that rezoning of property happens all the time and because that small section has been used for business purposes all these years, it should be no surprise that someday it would be developed and that day has now come. Like death - its inevitable.
charles March 01, 2012 at 02:22 AM
You know I hear alot of complaining about this Giant Eagle going on the driving Range property. What you dont understand is that this property is for sale, if not Giant Eagle then another strip center, or how about housing that goes straight out to Pearl. Now talk about complaining about traffic on your quiet cul-de-sac. At least Giant Eagle is in a position to work with the residents to meet their needs. You wont get that with a builder or another person who decides to build a strip center.
tom m March 01, 2012 at 03:23 AM
yes agreed the catans know whats good for the city as for the affected home owners ....there is 87 other counties in ohio im sure one of them have a tiny little city that will never have a evil box store in it
tom m March 01, 2012 at 04:01 AM
wow thats a great idea lets just level all the buildings on pearl road and plant trees and flowers
golf77 March 01, 2012 at 05:27 AM
As I have mentioned before, I think the rezoning of the rear portion of land is for Giant Eagle to move the building back farther off the road and create more parking area and separation from Pearl Road. I am not sure, but if the rezoning doesn't pass, It appears all Giant Eagle has to do, is move the building up approxaimtely 25 feet closer to Pearl Road. If this is true, guess what, now they don't have to really do anything to creating a significant buffer between them and the homes. Again, I have heard talk of this and tired to confirm, but have not gotten any answers.
Michelle Mercuri March 01, 2012 at 05:16 PM
The saying goes "be careful what you wish for". This land is FOR SALE. It seems Giant Eagle has done everything they can to work with the city AND has listened to the residents' concerns to implement a reasonable plan that everyone can live with. If it's not them, something will go there. And those builders/developers may not be as willing to listen to the concerns of the homeowners. I sympathize with those of you affected, but you knew (or should have known) prior to purchasing your home, that there was no guarantee of the driving range staying forever. And the ice cream shop has been several things over the years (I seem to remember an Arabica coffee shop with a drive thru). I am convinced that their presence would help other businesses in the area. As for property values, who's to say this will decrease them? There may be many buyers out there who are looking for the convenience and choices that this Giant Eagle will offer. Of course, you will also have to offer good schools... (admittedly an argument for another forum) On a side note regarding the comments about the Catanzarite family... are they businesspeople? YES. Have they chosen to keep their businesses here in Strongsville to all of our benefit? YES. Have they donated their time and money to the betterment of our community? YES. Do they care about Strongsville? YES.
Jill March 02, 2012 at 03:56 PM
Lyn, Please get your story straight due to the fact that there is a gas line that runs along the back of the property they can only put up a 5 ft barrier. The building is going to be built 80 ft off our property line. I invite you to drive down to the end of Raccoon Trail and say to your self would I want this in my front yard!!!!! Also I believe people have no idea what a monstrosity this building will be take a drive down 82 to Broadview Hts and see what is being built and how much space that takes up that store is not even 3/4ths the size of ours.
Jill March 02, 2012 at 03:58 PM
Michelle, we have NOTHING in writing from Giant Eagle. As for decreasing our property value, would you purchase a house that has this in there back yard it is call an absolescense.
Jill March 02, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Is the mall traffic really that bad, yes a little inconvienient at times, but I still shop there. Just like you do not like the inconvience. How do you think we feel. At the meeting the question was asked to both the delegates from Giant Eagle and Council members would you want this built in your backyard and they declined to answer what a cop out !!!!
lyn March 02, 2012 at 04:16 PM
Jill, I asked very politely to explain the logic in thinking above, and NO ONE has yet come forward to answer my questions. And you have avoided answering my questions as well - I said by answering, we might be understanding of your situation, but still no one has stepped up. I DID drive over there. I think everyone should so they can judge for themselves. After I drove over there, it further cemented my opinion that IF I lived there, I would prefer the 90 foot wide barrier, mounded then fenced and treed, that they are offering than what will probably be the view - that being 300+ ft. of flat land to the back of some building, either a smaller Giant Eagle, or other commercial structure. Just imagine what 300+ ft. is - not much, just the depth of 2 lots.
Jill March 02, 2012 at 04:25 PM
We were aware that the property was zoned residential.Again, would you purchase a home on either of those streets. Also the barrier is not going to be 90ft as stated at a previous meeting the buffer can only be 5ft high due to the gas line issue what type of noise with this hinder!!!
lyn March 02, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Past 2 of my question was "IF you say that you knew it was residential, why didn't you demanded that land NOT be used for business, and ask for them to move the net 300+ feet up? " Logic is lost on us. It has always been used for business, up to that tall net - that's why the need for the net. No, I would not have bought there - I would not want what you currently have (I don't like the view towards Pearl) or be willing to gamble on what might come. I also wouldn't want to live by the highway, yet new homes are built there all the time. I have not avoided this question - I have been honest. Also, buffer 90 ft WIDE, not tall. and, the mound would be treed and fenced. This is getting tiresome and you have made this about me - I'm now your target. But, when all else fails,....
James March 03, 2012 at 12:26 AM
The people who purchased homes next to the property near the driving range knew that the land was zoned for residential use, not commercial purposes, and that it would take an election to change the zoning from the building of future homes to anything else. They didn't envision any general business use of the land as it was zoned for residences. The back portion of the driving range most likely is a non-conforming use - the land is zoned residential, and I've heard there have been several plans for homes that fell through.- but the driving range can exist as long as they don't change the use of the land to anything else. If they change the use, as is proposed for the grocery store, the land must be rezoned. There is a high bar in the rezoning of residential land in Strongsville - the voters have to approve it. Strongsville residents should not take this ability to control development lightly. If you complain about traffic near the mall, you will complain about traffic on Pearl Road south of Shurmer once the wave of development there starts after a large anchor, such as a grocery store is in place. Before the mall you could get to Great Northern in 22 minutes. Now it takes that amount of time to get to I-71 through the traffic. And the voters approved a rezoning to permit a big mall. So please think about the future of your hometown.
tom m March 03, 2012 at 01:35 AM
yes and back befor I-71 it took a hour to get downtown ...and back before cars it took even longer ...its called progress .....(prŏg'rĕs', -rəs, prō'grĕs') n. 1. Movement, as toward a goal; advance. 2. Development or growth: students who show progress. 3. Steady improvement, as of a society or civilization: a believer in human progress. See synonyms at development. 4. A ceremonial journey made by a sovereign through his or her realm.

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